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what's up

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hey this is another episode of ufo

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garage i'm ben and i'm joe

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and this is where we talk about ufos

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aliens and

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hey what's up dude

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not a lot man not a lot it's uh part two

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part two part two chad and alta

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the ogs uh they've been through

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so many i mean man i've got so many

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messages and people reaching out to me

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texting me

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saying man your last episode the part

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one

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uh left people on a cliffhanger and uh

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so many people have been reaching out

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like i can't wait to hear

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what else these people have to say and

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uh yeah dude i'm excited that we have

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them back on this week oh yeah

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me too uh chad and alta say what's up to

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everybody

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hey how are y'all tonight thanks for

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having us back man

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awesome yes yes

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we are so happy to hear you yeah we're

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glad to have y'all back on

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for sure this part two is gonna be a

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it's gonna be a zinger

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and uh like i said if we gotta do part

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three part four

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whatever it takes i wanna hear the whole

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thing so uh

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i know the uh the last time that we

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spoke

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we left off in this part of the story

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where you guys had just got to louisiana

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y'all are in the french quarter some

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weird things are happening we know that

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you know you have the uh the voodoo

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stuff going on

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and uh we had just kind of left off on

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this part where

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uh i guess you all had this uh this hot

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friend

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that used to always have roller skates

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on and stuff like that

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and uh and uh y'all had just finished

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like cleansing the house and

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and things like that so that's kind of

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where we're at

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now so i would like to pick up

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right where we left off

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well awesome let's do it awesome

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so picking up from that point

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chad shared with you all last time his

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uh

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his ghosty my word ghosty experience

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with the voodoo priest

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yeah that you discover after the fact

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we're living in his

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specific apartment and

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uh so if

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memory serves me when we were cutting

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when we were

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closing the last chapter with y'all it

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about my experience in the apartment uh

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the

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everything it's just that

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term that seems to just cover anything

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that others might call

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weird or paranormal right and so my word

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is high strangers so my high strangeness

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mine started immediately as chad's did

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other people i all the terms the

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psychological terms and so on i just

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again i've babied up the language but

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but just to kind of frame it a lot of

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poltergeist

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kind of stuff going on lots of

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trickstery

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stuff going on like money cash money you

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know being

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disappearing and then and then

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reappearing in the weirdest of places

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such as i'm

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dropping laundry on the bed after it's

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been dried

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and i'm folding and you know this cache

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that had disappeared

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prior i don't know how long all of a

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sudden falls out of a pocket

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and it's and again to other folks that

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just might seem

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oh you forgot or misplaced but i'm

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talking about this was going on

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constantly

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it was kind of and the money it wasn't

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like it had been washed you know it was

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nice and folded and

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it wasn't like it was all you know

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washed and everything

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thank you chad exactly because i was

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gonna say that's why my

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wife loves doing the laundry she always

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so but you know just a fast example lots

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of this kind of stuff going on

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uh things disappearing and then coming

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back sort of things

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and uh but in this particular instance

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it got much more dramatic for me on a

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personal level it happened to be in the

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chad was at work he worked on as i

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often tell folks that know anything

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about new orleans on the famous bourbon

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at that time he's in restaurant bar

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business i happen to be home that

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i'm not working we mentioned our haughty

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little friend

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the last go-round that would rollerblade

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movie production companies going on in

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roller girl exactly she at the time

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but we're very tight from the minute we

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meet we had this very strong bond

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and she's going to come over that

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we're just going to do this kind of

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girls thing hanging out in the apartment

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having drinks and you know having a

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little party

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so she comes over there now she's young

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she knows how to drink and i'm not young

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and i know how to drink

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and in this scenario

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we had a we had a a puppy chad and i've

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never had children so our critters have

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always been

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fur babies as they call it we had an

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alligator

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we had i had a monkey back in the day

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and it wasn't the monkey lizard that

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we'll talk about later a whole different

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scenario oh my gosh i forgot about the

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monkeys

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yes that's in our notes too

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the monkey lizard so so anyhow at that

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a half rottweiler half doverman puppy

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she's a year old or somewhere in that

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age range we named her nephew

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short for nefertiti so she's nephew

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so nephew's just a love bunny she's just

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like me like chad man

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we're just love bunnies so girlfriend's

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coming over when i have a

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a girl afternoon with drinks and just

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hanging out

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so it's her and i and neffy that's it

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that's all that's in the apartment

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besides the ghosties we can't see

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i have a day bed in the living room

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uh we had a day bed in the living room

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and furniture and so on my regalia

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in a corner in on a mannequin it was

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always in its highest form of

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you know as far as i was always

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concerned it was that probably my

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religion if you will is

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the notion of again the clothing the

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moccasins and

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i had the full you know i have the full

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from top to bottom

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yeah on a mannequin in the corner so it

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was always in honor of my history and so

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for us above that voodoo temple

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by the time girlfriend gets over to the

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i remember coming in the house we hadn't

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even had a drink yet

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and we sat down to have what i remember

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is our first strength

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and next thing i know she's sleepy she's

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gotta go to sleep

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what what okay this is weird

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but listen you know if i love you my

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mikasa zookas is so

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yeah all right maybe she's had a hard

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night or what if she didn't seem that

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way but you know

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she changed that's my point when she got

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into the apartment she had to she needed

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so she's sitting on the day bed she just

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sideways on the bed

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and then ends up almost like in a prone

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position and she's not

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smooth out now she's snoring she goes to

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i'm like well okay some party this isn't

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yeah i remember leaving her with my

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nephew

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my dog and uh i'm gonna go into the

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bedroom and just give her some privacy

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and wait for her to wake up or what the

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so i remember going into the bedroom

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i remember shutting the bedroom door i

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sitting on the edge of our bed

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and then the next thing i know without

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anything in between

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i'm back in my living room oh and i'm

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only this time around as i'm taking in

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everything going on around me that

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living room is my living room but it's

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it looks ancient it's it's dirty but not

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filthy

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what i mean dirty is it's it's dusty and

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that's very i just in that description

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i'm taking that in because all of this

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is all happening so fast

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as i'm standing there and like what the

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as i'm taking this in around me my

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regalia is not

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i mean i'm not seeing anything familiar

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i just know i'm in my apartment

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and that's why you're describing like i

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remember this was here this was there

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and and like situations where where

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things were so what you're you're

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describing is like nothing

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that you had previously thought was in

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in the place wasn't

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at this point and including girlfriend

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daybed and my nephew they're not there

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it's just me this very strange uh

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kind of uh not dark but

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shadowy sort of filmy

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coloring around me like a yellowish

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filmy i was so hard to describe again

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everything is happening so fast

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i'm taking this in and i'm like oh what

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and by the time i'm like saying what

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trying to process this

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i feel somebody behind me

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so i pivot i'm right in the same

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position

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i just pivot around and there are three

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females that are all standing in a row

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side by side my best description is they

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are

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wearing tattered dresses

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their hair is crazy looking

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they're african-american they're women

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of color

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they are young i would say late teens

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20-ish feeling like i'm pushing the

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number

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um all three of them standing in a row

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have their arms their arm one of their

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arms

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reaching towards me and they are

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the most beautiful

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in the sense of the feeling that i was

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receiving

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beings i'd ever been around they were

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beautiful i'm not talking about exterior

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i'm talking about energy yeah and

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they're all

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smiling and these smiles i'm just

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enraptured in

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and i start to move towards them

293
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with those arms extended at me they're

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saying we just want to touch you

295
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we just want to touch you and they're

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saying it in this melodic voice

297
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well okay i want to be touched because

298
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i don't know nothing i'm just so happy

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all of a sudden

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i'm not even questioning i just start to

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move towards them and before i could

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really take a step i remember leaning

303
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that direction maybe i took a step

304
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again everything's happening very fast i

305
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have something else behind me

306
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now the other direction i

307
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again i pivot back around

308
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and we are so close we're bosom to bosom

309
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i'm kind of a larger girl now and i got

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some girls

311
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and this being this female

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that's standing face to face with me

313
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she's caucasian looking and she's

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dressed like the virgin mary

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all the depictions you ever see about

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the virgin mary

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if they're done in caucasian form is

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what i feel i am looking at that i am

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in the presence of right wow

320
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she has her arms kind of uh

321
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in a motion now she's robed with veil

322
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but i can see her face and she's

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beautiful

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and i'm just tripping she's white and

325
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again i'm true

326
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and um but again i'm not i'm not

327
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consciously going through any of that

328
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i'm just having this experience

329
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yeah because we are so close her veiled

330
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arms or her robed arms

331
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are almost as if she's trying to hug me

332
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well she doesn't have to worry about

333
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that because i'm leaning right into her

334
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i just want her yeah because i'm cute i

335
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mean says

336
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you know the language i'm in a state of

337
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such happiness

338
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i don't care i'm not questioning

339
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anything

340
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i lean into her and i remember her

341
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whispering

342
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in my ear and her words were very

343
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distinct now this is where the story

344
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goes all

345
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nuts like the rest of it's not crazy

346
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sorry the words that she whispered into

347
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my ear or set into my ear

348
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audibly in english calling me by name

349
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saying alta you must

350
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get stable now

351
00:13:29,829 --> 00:13:29,360
what huh but again i am not processing

352
00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:29,839
that

353
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yeah well i'm falling into eternity

354
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there's no other way to describe it as i

355
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leaned into her

356
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and she hugged me and she said or at

357
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least

358
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that motion of hug and uttered those

359
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words in my ear

360
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i fell into it i felt like i just don't

361
00:13:50,629 --> 00:13:49,120
know how to describe these things i felt

362
00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:50,639
like i was falling into

363
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eternity whoa crazy-ass words

364
00:13:58,710 --> 00:13:58,079
you know yeah yeah just kind of a sense

365
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of of

366
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losing oneself or just uh

367
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falling into some kind of black hole of

368
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sorts uh

369
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right you must get stable

370
00:14:16,069 --> 00:14:14,079
yeah how to you must get stable and she

371
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said it was such uh

372
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power right do you do you remember

373
00:14:23,990 --> 00:14:22,480
um is there any

374
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do you remember like what she looked

375
00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:25,839
like what was she wearing like a

376
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like was there any color was it just

377
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like a bright

378
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you know i mean what did what was you

379
00:14:34,389 --> 00:14:32,880
know

380
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what was she wearing i mean was there

381
00:14:40,790 --> 00:14:37,680
any colors or anything like that

382
00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:40,800
i remember that the garments were

383
00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:44,560
dark and dark is all that's coming to me

384
00:14:49,030 --> 00:14:47,120
yeah i don't know seeing dark blue i at

385
00:14:52,389 --> 00:14:49,040
one moment i want to say like a

386
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very deep deep deep blue black

387
00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:55,199
yeah but i'm not sure of that uh there's

388
00:15:00,949 --> 00:14:57,040
no glow to her

389
00:15:04,230 --> 00:15:00,959
it's there's no uh light if you will

390
00:15:07,430 --> 00:15:04,240
yeah from her she had a very

391
00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:07,440
beautiful caucasian face because that's

392
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all i could see

393
00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:12,000
right and she was white yeah

394
00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:14,800
so yeah i'm it's kind of making me think

395
00:15:17,670 --> 00:15:15,120
like

396
00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:17,680
have you i mean have you ever heard the

397
00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:18,560
chris bledsoe

398
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story i have

399
00:15:28,870 --> 00:15:25,519
yeah i mean the psychiatrist

400
00:15:31,350 --> 00:15:28,880
who did his uh his um

401
00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:31,360
regression yeah came to my home and

402
00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:32,399
regressed me

403
00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:35,360
really interesting that's very

404
00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:37,040
interesting yeah because i mean he's had

405
00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:38,560
this uh

406
00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:42,000
encounter

407
00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:44,800
of what they think could have possibly

408
00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:45,920
been the virgin mary

409
00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:48,480
yeah what's what's interesting is is the

410
00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:51,279
the the defining factors of why

411
00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:54,880
we would not we but the experiencers who

412
00:15:58,069 --> 00:15:56,320
i mean you guys aren't the only ones i

413
00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:58,079
mean i've i've heard a couple other ones

414
00:16:01,829 --> 00:16:00,720
right uh nothing to take away from your

415
00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:01,839
experience but i'm just saying i'm

416
00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:03,759
trying to connect the dots here but like

417
00:16:08,230 --> 00:16:06,480
uh like the virgin mary for some reason

418
00:16:11,110 --> 00:16:08,240
has been like an archetype

419
00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:11,120
with a lot of experiences and and it's a

420
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:12,720
lot of people have different

421
00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:15,279
uh distinctive qualities like you say

422
00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:16,800
the the shawl was a

423
00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:20,480
deep blue maybe dark blue dark shawl

424
00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:23,920
obviously caucasian yeah sorry she was

425
00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:25,920
she was veiled and robed all the way

426
00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:26,800
down to the feet

427
00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:29,839
yeah i didn't see a body because she was

428
00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:30,959
completely

429
00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:33,519
right and then and then you think of

430
00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:34,000
like

431
00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:41,600
where you were going with that joke

432
00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:43,440
you grew up catholic so i was thinking

433
00:16:47,430 --> 00:16:45,120
like man because

434
00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:47,440
my the only reason i'm like digging into

435
00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:49,199
this i think you are too is like

436
00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:52,240
man what if virgin mary was an

437
00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:55,040
alien the whole time or another another

438
00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:55,440
uh

439
00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:57,680
a dimensional creature that shows up to

440
00:17:02,550 --> 00:16:59,360
people in this same archetype

441
00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:02,560
you know right yeah i mean yeah i mean

442
00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:04,319
it's it's uh it's an interesting thing

443
00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:05,839
to think about i mean uh

444
00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:07,520
i i forgot who we were talking to but

445
00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:08,880
they had said uh uh

446
00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:11,439
uh you know they had asked uh you know

447
00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:12,079
well

448
00:17:16,309 --> 00:17:13,520
how come aliens just don't come and

449
00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:16,319
visit us and whoever it was had said

450
00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:18,480
well because the last time an alien

451
00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:20,240
showed up and showed us everything he's

452
00:17:24,150 --> 00:17:20,799
got

453
00:17:26,309 --> 00:17:24,160
we crucified him and

454
00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:26,319
obviously we're interpreting that as

455
00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:27,839
like well jesus

456
00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:30,080
could have possibly been this extra

457
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:30,960
dimensional

458
00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:33,520
like whatever we want to call it but his

459
00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:34,080
mother

460
00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:36,320
obviously played a very important role

461
00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:37,679
in this whole thing

462
00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:39,520
and you know the virgin mary has

463
00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:41,760
appeared to a lot of people

464
00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:43,919
like throughout history and it's like

465
00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:45,600
it's trying to connect those dots on

466
00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:46,160
like

467
00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:50,000
why does she for some reason show up

468
00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:53,200
to so many people you know yeah it's

469
00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:54,160
very interesting you know

470
00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:56,160
people always tell stories about angels

471
00:18:00,390 --> 00:17:57,200
and you know

472
00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:00,400
maybe even god or whatever but a lot of

473
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:03,600
stories are dealing with the virgin mary

474
00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:06,400
specifically yeah she's just made a lot

475
00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:08,320
of appearance appearances yeah

476
00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:10,880
and then the words the words you have to

477
00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:12,960
get grounded what what did you take away

478
00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:13,520
from that

479
00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:16,559
alta uh

480
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:23,029
my life up until then had been so

481
00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:23,760
chaotic

482
00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:25,280
because there's much of our story we've

483
00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:27,760
not had opportunity to share with you

484
00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:29,840
from the very beginning as much as we've

485
00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:30,799
shared with you

486
00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:33,440
there's a whole section that we've never

487
00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:34,880
discussed

488
00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:38,400
part 16 you know exactly i mean again

489
00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:39,840
you know people

490
00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:43,039
well anyhow just lots and lots of chaos

491
00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:44,640
in our life from the moment chad and i

492
00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:46,400
got together

493
00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:49,280
tremendous chaos and nothing we'd wish

494
00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:51,280
on anybody not anybody

495
00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:54,559
and so what i suggest is what did i take

496
00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:56,480
away from that i'm

497
00:19:01,590 --> 00:18:59,280
i'm convinced as egotistical as it may

498
00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:01,600
sound because i don't feel i have an ego

499
00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:04,960
any longer if i do it's i

500
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:06,960
can't account for it not for everything

501
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:08,240
we've been through

502
00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:12,000
my suggestion is to know the whole story

503
00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:15,200
one would say they're nuts

504
00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:18,240
they have made all this uh they

505
00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:19,840
this they that and i don't want to waste

506
00:19:24,549 --> 00:19:22,799
all that energy but the suggestion is

507
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,559
those words that were said to me you

508
00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:26,320
must get stable

509
00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:28,400
anything lesser than who i was at that

510
00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:30,160
moment would have never survived

511
00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:33,200
nor chad anybody lesser than chad and i

512
00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:34,799
for what we had already been put through

513
00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:36,640
up until that point in time

514
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:39,280
would have never i'm convinced survive

515
00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:41,440
and when you know the whole story

516
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:44,559
it really makes sense it makes sense and

517
00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:44,880
i

518
00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:52,320
nother ballgame

519
00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:54,080
that's that part of the story is a whole

520
00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:55,360
nother ball game

521
00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:59,120
and so that that's i'm only left with

522
00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:00,160
that perception

523
00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:03,440
so as this is happening to me

524
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:06,640
um my take on

525
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:09,760
for instance those females those those

526
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:11,520
black females right so you have three

527
00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,880
three females and then and then the

528
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:14,400
virgin basically let's just call her

529
00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:15,039
mary

530
00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:17,919
just for time's sake right like yeah

531
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:19,440
yeah

532
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:22,480
right and so because she never she never

533
00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:23,200
once said

534
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:25,120
anything other than what i repeated to

535
00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:26,240
you wow

536
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:28,400
everything else was my impression my

537
00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:29,520
perception my

538
00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:32,000
feeling but those three females those

539
00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:32,960
black females

540
00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:36,480
that started this little story i kept

541
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:38,880
taking out of it and i'm still not sure

542
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:40,640
but i always felt as if i'd gone through

543
00:20:45,029 --> 00:20:41,840
some kind of crazy ass

544
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:45,039
time slip and that i was standing in

545
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:47,120
that apartment when it was created 300

546
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:48,400
years prior

547
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:50,480
and that those females were slaves that

548
00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:53,039
may have lived and died on that property

549
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:55,600
and i assure you that whoever they were

550
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:57,280
whatever that was

551
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:00,880
i was in a state of bliss with them

552
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:03,600
because they were blissful that that's

553
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:05,280
the only way to describe it

554
00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:08,640
whoa wow so you go from

555
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,960
kind of this era of we have this

556
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,919
trickster and

557
00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:14,080
you guys have experienced some some

558
00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:15,600
poltergeist activity into

559
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:17,679
and now to this this kind of beautiful

560
00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:20,000
experience that's that's interesting

561
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,159
right it felt very much again like we

562
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,080
were experiencing that property

563
00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:27,120
in its totality yeah

564
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:31,360
right what a wide gradient

565
00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:34,400
to have exactly

566
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:37,520
and so from so that you know that that's

567
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,280
that's that experience if you will um

568
00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:43,120
coming out of that experience i've tried

569
00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:46,159
so hard to remember i don't remember

570
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:49,039
where my friend ended up i don't

571
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:50,000
remember

572
00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:53,039
waking up i just know that life got on

573
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:56,880
from that moment on um and again we were

574
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:59,600
having we were having these very strange

575
00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:00,480
experiences

576
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,080
one more we can share with you about

577
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:04,080
that property in particular

578
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:07,120
uh before we move into you know other

579
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:07,679
stuff

580
00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:10,960
that was happening to us as we mentioned

581
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:11,919
in the first go

582
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,760
in our first visit with y'all we were

583
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:15,280
telling you they made a lot of movies on

584
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:16,320
that property

585
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:18,640
yeah using the courtyard for all the

586
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:19,520
voodoo

587
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,600
you know purposes and i'm not sure if

588
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:23,200
other kinds of movies made there what

589
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:24,240
have you

590
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:28,159
but uh so one night

591
00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:31,280
we are chad and i are sleeping we're up

592
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:31,919
in our

593
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:35,440
little bedroom in that uh dead voodoo

594
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:36,159
priest's

595
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:40,400
apartment i want to mention again right

596
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:43,919
and i'm smelling smoke

597
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:47,120
like fire well we'll just mention

598
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,880
that's the last thing you want to smell

599
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,320
in the french quarter because everything

600
00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:52,799
is attached and it's yeah yeah

601
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:55,039
and it's wood a lot of it would you just

602
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:57,039
don't want to fire in the quarter

603
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,840
and um but i'm smelling smoke so i'm

604
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:01,280
waking chad up because i got a good

605
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:02,559
sniffer

606
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:05,280
and he's just basically telling me i'm

607
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:07,039
dreaming go back to sleep

608
00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:10,320
no okay so i try to do that maybe i even

609
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,440
drifted off a second

610
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:13,840
speeding the story up next thing i know

611
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:15,760
not only am i smelling smoke i see

612
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,159
white smoke coming in our apartment

613
00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:22,559
now i got his attention now we're

614
00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:24,159
hauling ass out of that apartment we're

615
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:24,799
on the second

616
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:27,039
story we're down those stairs we're out

617
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:28,640
in the courtyard yelling

618
00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:31,919
fire fire you know we're the fire alarm

619
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,480
reese's comes out we got all those slave

620
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,240
quarters that have been converted into

621
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:38,000
efficiency apartments that all those

622
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,919
folks the ebby's coming out of their

623
00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:41,520
place right we're all now in this our

624
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:43,520
next door neighbor he came out now we've

625
00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:45,360
only seen him once or twice because we

626
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:46,960
were sure he was a ghost yeah

627
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,080
it was weird because he would have see

628
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:52,240
him every once in a while yeah he did i

629
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:53,279
never saw him

630
00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:57,760
crazy and we had a ghost over there

631
00:24:02,230 --> 00:24:00,480
so he right so he even comes out as

632
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:02,240
we're yelling this fire story

633
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:05,200
okay so we're all now standing in the

634
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:05,840
quarter

635
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,200
in the uh courtyard and

636
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:11,919
well and the voodoo priest she comes out

637
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:13,679
priestess comes out yeah now i

638
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:16,799
believe she still she kept pretty much

639
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:20,480
kept the back door open that goes into

640
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:20,880
the

641
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,520
yeah

642
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,679
we were surrounded in huge iron gates

643
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:31,279
with great big locks yeah

644
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:34,400
yeah yeah

645
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:36,559
back door to the temple yeah a lot of

646
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:37,600
the the buildings

647
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:39,760
in louisiana in that area i mean like

648
00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:41,279
yeah their driveways and

649
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:43,760
how you get in is you go through gates

650
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,000
to the center of the property

651
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:48,159
and then you go in the buildings right

652
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:49,120
absolutely right

653
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:52,480
yeah well that the reason that

654
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,000
uh is taxes they taxed

655
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:58,240
like if you had a front yard they would

656
00:25:03,029 --> 00:24:59,440
tax you more

657
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:03,039
oh so they put they put the the houses

658
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:05,360
and the buildings right on the sidewalk

659
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:06,480
and then had the

660
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:09,360
like you know courtyard in the back

661
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:10,400
where you wouldn't

662
00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:13,360
you wouldn't have to pay like the taxes

663
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:14,559
for having a friend

664
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:17,279
very interesting sticking it to the man

665
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:17,679
yeah

666
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:21,440
wonder if it's the same way in

667
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:24,159
uh guatemala it's the same layout in

668
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:26,080
guatemala it's all like

669
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:27,840
fences or all the buildings are right up

670
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,520
to the sidewalk and all every

671
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:31,679
all the courtyards are like in the

672
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,799
middle of the property

673
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:34,320
yeah that's interesting super cool i

674
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:35,840
love that that stuff

675
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:39,039
yeah yeah and it's great for privacy too

676
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,880
i mean you could just you know lose

677
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:42,320
yourself out there

678
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:46,320
yeah so we look over to the um

679
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:50,080
towards the temple and we see the smoke

680
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,200
coming out

681
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:54,240
so the priestesses and i uh

682
00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:56,559
go in into the temple i think everybody

683
00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:58,480
else pretty much stayed outside

684
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,559
about this time the weather just changed

685
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,799
if i might interject not only was smoke

686
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:06,400
coming out of the temple it was

687
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:07,919
billowing yeah it was below we're

688
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:09,200
talking about

689
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:12,400
white billowing smoke but we don't

690
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,440
we don't see like a big fire or a lion

691
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:17,200
anything there's no light or anything

692
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,279
coming from a fire

693
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:21,520
so he's about to describe to you when he

694
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,640
goes in there but

695
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:24,480
i'm on the outside because i don't go in

696
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:26,640
the temple it's a tiny little place that

697
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:28,159
temple was tiny

698
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,559
and it's got altars everywhere there's

699
00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:31,919
not a lot of room in there

700
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:34,240
yeah so i'm out in the courtyard with

701
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:35,840
all the folks that we've been yelling

702
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:37,760
you know fire fire so we're all standing

703
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:38,240
there

704
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:40,960
and as chad said the weather changed

705
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:41,679
instantly

706
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:44,880
night time

707
00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:48,159
we eleven twelve o'clock at night and

708
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:51,600
all of a sudden black black

709
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:55,279
black on black and it's as if

710
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:57,520
it was as if a movie was going on like

711
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:59,520
those movie production companies with

712
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:00,480
the lights

713
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:06,870
hit the lightning and i mean we were

714
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:09,039
having no rain there was no water but we

715
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:09,760
were having

716
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:12,240
thunder and lightning striking all

717
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:12,960
around us

718
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:15,200
just like a freaking movie set i can't

719
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,320
make it up

720
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,919
if i wouldn't have experienced i've

721
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:19,679
never believed listening to somebody say

722
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:21,120
this that wasn't on some kind of

723
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:24,240
acid chad is now going in that temple

724
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,559
that

725
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:26,720
billowing white smoke coming out with

726
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:27,760
that priestess

727
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:31,440
and chadwick and we see nothing there's

728
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:34,480
no fire but i mean rooms the room is

729
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:37,760
just full of smoke wait no

730
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,000
about that time here come here comes the

731
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:42,159
fire department and there's must be like

732
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:43,120
10 firemen

733
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,320
10 to 15 big boys yeah no exactly

734
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:49,440
they come in the front door you know big

735
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:51,520
boys love it

736
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,960
big boys yeah you know they are scared

737
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:57,360
to come to that temple yeah everybody's

738
00:28:02,230 --> 00:27:58,880
scared of that temple

739
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:02,240
so they come in and you know

740
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:04,799
they see the smoke yeah and like we're

741
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:05,760
looking around

742
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:08,480
and i mean you know she's got candles

743
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:08,960
lit

744
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:11,200
and everything like that but everything

745
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,799
seems normal

746
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,720
now again like alta said earlier you

747
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:16,320
know there's altars

748
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:19,840
all over the place yeah now she had just

749
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:23,200
made this one altar or the day or two

750
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:24,399
before

751
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:27,440
it was her and the dead

752
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:30,880
priest's wedding anniversary

753
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:34,320
so they he had she had her his tuxedo

754
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,840
up on the wall kind of tacked to the

755
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:37,840
wall and her wedding dress tacked to the

756
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,640
wall

757
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,640
and then you know depictions of the

758
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:42,960
saints and jesus and all that

759
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:45,840
and then like this kind of semi and mary

760
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:46,960
circle

761
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:50,080
uh you know kind of where the

762
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,679
the well where the altar and you know

763
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:55,760
all the candles and all the

764
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:58,799
juju stuff and all that kind of stuff i

765
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,080
get to looking at it

766
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:02,399
real close and i see one of the candles

767
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:04,000
where it was out

768
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,120
and there was a crack down this

769
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:09,600
the jar you know it's in one of those

770
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:10,559
jar kind of tall

771
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:13,919
jar candles uh-huh yeah so what had

772
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:14,480
happened

773
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:17,679
is it got so hot it cracked

774
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,200
and then the wax and all caught fire

775
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:23,440
all these you know trinkets and stuff

776
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,799
you know

777
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:26,720
i'm sure there was fabric and paper or

778
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:29,039
whatever it had traveled kind of

779
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:32,640
towards the uh wall it went up the wall

780
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:35,120
just a little bit and it stopped at the

781
00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:36,799
i mean the depictions of the saints were

782
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:38,840
probably you know maybe

783
00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:42,240
two three foot you know from

784
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:44,720
the floor you know on the wall yeah you

785
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:45,440
know

786
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:48,480
it it stopped right there at those

787
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:50,880
depictions

788
00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:53,360
right above that was his suit and her

789
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,159
wedding dress

790
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:56,720
if it would have caught that you know

791
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:58,080
that cloth on

792
00:30:02,789 --> 00:29:59,760
you know especially her wedding dress i

793
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:02,799
mean it would probably burn the uh

794
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:06,240
try to imagine cartoonish how fast 15

795
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:10,320
10 15 big firemen got out of that place

796
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:10,960
yeah

797
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:16,960
i would assume like like those firemen

798
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:17,760
would like

799
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:19,520
just assume let the thing burn they were

800
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,120
tired of it probably yeah

801
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:23,600
yeah and they were gone like they gotta

802
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:25,200
go i think that i think they asked her

803
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:26,559
do you mind putting the

804
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:28,399
candles out for tonight she goes no no

805
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:30,080
no that sounds like a great idea

806
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:31,520
we're talking about that so they were

807
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,200
going out of this thing

808
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:35,200
it looked like the whole quarter was

809
00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:37,360
going to go down without exaggeration

810
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:41,120
wow this this weather experience

811
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:45,200
was so bizarre that lightning and

812
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:46,000
thunder

813
00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:49,039
as if somebody and it was just around us

814
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:51,279
it wasn't across you know new orleans

815
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,750
crazy that's pretty interesting so do

816
00:31:03,669 --> 00:30:59,440
you guys think that

817
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:03,679
the the fire it's stopping before the

818
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,480
saints

819
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:07,039
and the and the the wedding dress and

820
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,559
the tuxedo and stuff

821
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:10,559
i mean do you guys think that there is

822
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:12,000
some some

823
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:15,679
some sort of uh high strangeness that uh

824
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:19,200
that stopped this fire you know it seems

825
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:20,480
to me because

826
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:22,960
i mean there was no really reason for it

827
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,880
to go out because there was plenty of

828
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:26,720
stuff for it to travel on up the wall

829
00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:27,039
with

830
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:29,519
that's exactly what i was thinking and

831
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:30,640
it's just like

832
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:33,679
the fire goes and then it reaches this

833
00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:37,600
this holy place that she's set up

834
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:40,480
and then it puts the fire out yeah the

835
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:41,440
power of

836
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:45,120
of you know the hoodoo yeah yeah

837
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:47,760
it's got me thinking like they were

838
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:48,640
whatever

839
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:51,279
they were practicing it must be

840
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:52,720
protected in some way

841
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:55,760
like maybe that dress and that suit was

842
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:57,519
i don't know i mean i'm i'm pretty

843
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:58,880
open-minded when it comes to that kind

844
00:32:02,310 --> 00:31:59,279
of

845
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,320
did the priestess seem like worried at

846
00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:04,080
all was she like oh no i need to go get

847
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,399
all my stuff or would she just kind of

848
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:08,399
come out and like

849
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,000
kind of okay with it i would not

850
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:14,640
say okay under any charms but she had a

851
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:16,559
lot of secrets and we won't get into any

852
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:17,120
of that

853
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:20,240
yeah so

854
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:23,840
who knows what about what but i didn't

855
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:26,799
she struck me in my impression of what i

856
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:28,720
could see is somebody

857
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:37,190
wow okay dang

858
00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:40,240
that's super interesting wow and did you

859
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:42,159
all do your book report

860
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:45,679
a little bit all right the uh

861
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:47,760
the stuff that you all sent us about the

862
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:49,200
people that moved in

863
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:52,559
after you guys that was wild

864
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,000
right ten years after we lived there man

865
00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:58,399
it was ten years after we lived there in

866
00:33:02,549 --> 00:32:59,600
that apartment

867
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,559
the zach and addie story yes leave it to

868
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:04,000
most folks if they're interested in

869
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,360
exploring that because there's lots of

870
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:07,039
information out there

871
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:09,440
but the ghosty boys or one of the

872
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:11,120
ghostie boys and

873
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:14,080
and this female that he hooked up with i

874
00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:15,840
think her name katrina

875
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:17,279
one of the ghosty boys out of those

876
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:19,600
three original ghosty boys that

877
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:22,080
you know zach i think the zack i think

878
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:23,519
his name is zach bagan

879
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:26,480
yeah has this the one that broke away

880
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:27,039
from him

881
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:29,360
the one that was in the beginning is oh

882
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,320
yeah yeah

883
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:33,360
years ago the ghost hunter guys yeah

884
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:35,440
well there's you know all these names

885
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,399
and all these

886
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:38,640
groups but these three guys these three

887
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:39,600
young guys

888
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:41,360
in particular i think the lead dude's

889
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:42,640
name zach

890
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:44,559
his buddy is aaron and i think they're

891
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:46,640
still together and back in the day there

892
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:48,640
was a third partner who broke away from

893
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:49,279
them

894
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,399
and he started his tv show they he and

895
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:54,480
this chick named katrina interestingly

896
00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:54,960
enough

897
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,760
went to our apartment to do a [\h__\h] you

898
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:59,279
know one of these shows that was on

899
00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:00,480
television

900
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:03,039
to go see if they could connect with the

901
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,039
zack addie story

902
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,799
and they discovered all kinds of other

903
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,720
stuff going on in that apartment that we

904
00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:10,159
always known about because that

905
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:11,440
apartment is alive

906
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,079
i mean there was never any doubt to us

907
00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:16,079
that apartment was alive

908
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:19,599
in terms of all the unseen

909
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,359
don't know how to identify it don't know

910
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:23,599
how to not into all that language

911
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:25,280
just knowing what we've experienced

912
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:27,359
there so yeah you know that zac and

913
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:28,480
addy's story is

914
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:31,040
mind-blowing it's devastating and it's

915
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:31,919
mind-blowing

916
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:35,599
oh absolutely i mean i'm sure you guys

917
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:37,760
like encountered some creepy stuff and

918
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:38,720
like you know

919
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:41,280
it sounds like y'all had some like weird

920
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:42,720
weird things happening

921
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:45,839
uh their their experience definitely

922
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:48,159
didn't seem like a virgin mary yeah

923
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:49,520
happy story at all

924
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,040
i mean i'm thinking for for the

925
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:53,440
listeners uh can we do like a

926
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,720
a 30 second cap of

927
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:58,800
of what happened with the zack and addy

928
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,400
story can we shorten it so we

929
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:03,280
we kind of are all on the same uh same

930
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:03,760
page

931
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:06,960
yeah yeah so zach and addie move into

932
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:08,960
our apartment ten years after we lived

933
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:09,680
there

934
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:13,280
katrina the

935
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:16,320
katrina disaster they became

936
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:19,440
infamous famous because they refused to

937
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,839
leave they've refused to abandon ship

938
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:23,040
yeah when everybody's

939
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:25,119
being ordered out they weren't going

940
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:26,720
they stayed

941
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:30,160
level

942
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:32,320
as we've always tried to you know uh

943
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:35,359
offer everything we understand

944
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:37,040
excuse me about our experiences and

945
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:39,119
people we know having experiences

946
00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:41,440
they were a young couple dude was from

947
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:42,839
up north

948
00:35:49,150 --> 00:35:46,240
originally he's extremely tall

949
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:49,160
he was like i talked about chad tall

950
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:50,800
chad6162

951
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:53,520
this dude was like close to i don't know

952
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:53,839
six

953
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:00,320
and uh he's a young guy who had served

954
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,720
over in iraq he got out of the service

955
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:06,720
he ends up in new orleans

956
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,560
he gets involved in the bar business

957
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:10,560
he's a good now the short story is

958
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:11,359
they're both

959
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:14,480
very good drunks alcoholic

960
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:18,079
drug bartender bar made

961
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:21,200
right that's right

962
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:24,079
they're uh they got this heavy love

963
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:25,440
story going on

964
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:27,599
now she's teeny the reason i express his

965
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,240
height he's extremely tall

966
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,800
a warrior from you know he rocks so on

967
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:34,800
and so forth she's a little tiny thing

968
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:36,560
that i understand was meaner than cat

969
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:39,040
[\h__\h] she could have

970
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,880
turned anybody inside out and upside

971
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,480
down from our understanding we have

972
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:44,640
girlfriends that were bartenders there

973
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,960
you have to have that kind of quality

974
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:48,160
yeah to

975
00:36:52,829 --> 00:36:51,040
navigate bourbon street or the quarter

976
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:52,839
so anyhow she's one of those kind of

977
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,680
characters so she's a tough little thing

978
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:57,599
and they seem to be this perfect match

979
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:00,160
to hear anybody talk about them

980
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:03,040
craziest wild love story keep in mind

981
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:03,680
again

982
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:05,760
they don't got kids they don't answer to

983
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:08,240
nobody they doing their own thing as i

984
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:09,920
said they got infamous famous because

985
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,760
they refused to leave

986
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:13,680
so when they were doing a lot of help

987
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:15,920
with uh like people that didn't have

988
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:17,920
food they would say for the folks that

989
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,119
were still there

990
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:21,440
yeah that nobody hears about in the news

991
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:22,160
so they're

992
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,040
in that regards but also take note you

993
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:30,960
know the quarter is shut down

994
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:33,839
everything is done and dead on the

995
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:34,800
surface

996
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:36,400
but they got access because they're in

997
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:38,000
the quarter they got access to all the

998
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:38,560
booze

999
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:40,240
they got access to all the drugs they

1000
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,160
got access to anything they need

1001
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:44,320
yeah because there's you know that world

1002
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:45,200
is still happening

1003
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:46,480
what do you do when the lights go out

1004
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:47,760
yeah what do you do when the lights go

1005
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:48,560
out that's right

1006
00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:51,040
so apparently it sounds like they had

1007
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:52,720
they had a really good time for

1008
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:55,119
you know several weeks while the porter

1009
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:55,839
was

1010
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:58,079
shut down and and what appeared to be

1011
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:59,119
dead

1012
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:01,440
they're living it up and then all of a

1013
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:04,480
sudden as i understand it life came back

1014
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:07,200
lights came back on and their reality

1015
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:09,040
came back to a reality of

1016
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,480
a different world than what they had

1017
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,640
been living like mad max

1018
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:14,400
it's no longer necessarily even though

1019
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:16,160
it's still mad max yeah

1020
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,400
so so in the meantime

1021
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:22,800
now again i know you said 30 seconds the

1022
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:25,520
bottom line is that's totally fine

1023
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:28,320
dudes ends up on top of one of our

1024
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:30,000
snotty hotels in the middle of the

1025
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,920
quarter you've got to pay a lot of money

1026
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:33,760
you know stay in one of those places

1027
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:37,040
he goes to the top of this hotel

1028
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:40,800
and they have a bar up there and uh

1029
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:43,599
he goes up there to drink his little

1030
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:45,680
sorrows away or whatever the case may be

1031
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:47,119
will fill in the blanks

1032
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:50,240
and after he parties up there he walks

1033
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:50,560
off

1034
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:54,720
the edge of it and commits suicide

1035
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,640
whoa my understanding my understanding

1036
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:58,480
is it's still daylight

1037
00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:00,880
he hits and you know not sounding so

1038
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:01,760
graphic but

1039
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:03,440
literally he has put a note in his

1040
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,839
pocket that he's pre-written before he's

1041
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,119
done this

1042
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,040
that uh he's telling the cops the

1043
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:11,599
detectives to go to our apartment

1044
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:14,560
by number so on and they're going to

1045
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,920
discover what they're about to go

1046
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:17,520
discover that they're not prepared to go

1047
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:18,640
discover

1048
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:21,680
to that apartment

1049
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,760
there's blood all over the walls feces

1050
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:26,000
and all kinds of you name it apparently

1051
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:27,680
all over the walls of that apartment

1052
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:28,960
very strange

1053
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:31,920
she had been dead for 12 days he killed

1054
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:32,240
her

1055
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:36,480
turned up the air conditioner

1056
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:39,920
and partied for 12 days

1057
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:42,720
losing his mind after he killed her and

1058
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:44,480
then our understanding is he

1059
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:47,359
cut her up into pieces yeah so when the

1060
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:49,040
cops got there when the detectives got

1061
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:50,480
there part of her is cooking on our

1062
00:40:00,930 --> 00:39:51,680
stove

1063
00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:07,990
[Music]

1064
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:09,750
because no matter what chad and i

1065
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,000
experienced in that apartment

1066
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,319
ours as i describe it poultry guys see

1067
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:15,760
like trickstery

1068
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:18,880
playfulness uh yeah you know the fear

1069
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:20,240
that i ever experience

1070
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:22,079
is just because you can't go through any

1071
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:24,000
of this and not have some kind of fear

1072
00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:27,040
associated right yeah yeah evil

1073
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:29,839
and i never detected and that i did not

1074
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:30,480
detect

1075
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:33,599
i i'm like some of the living people who

1076
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:34,400
live there but

1077
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:37,520
certainly not that and i think this has

1078
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:38,000
to deal

1079
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:41,680
with like why you know the mary

1080
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:44,079
came to alta you got to be stable

1081
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:44,720
because you

1082
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:47,760
have to be stable to and from living in

1083
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,990
to pull out the burn and go hey you know

1084
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:55,280
if you have a

1085
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:59,040
weak constitution you don't need to be

1086
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:01,520
in that right in that in that apartment

1087
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:02,640
that's you know you

1088
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:06,400
have to be strong or you know not it let

1089
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,720
it

1090
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:08,800
affect you plus new orleans is the

1091
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:10,240
crescent

1092
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:14,640
the mississippi river

1093
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:17,280
as our boundary as our border right so

1094
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:19,119
we're right on the water and as we said

1095
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:20,000
before below

1096
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:24,400
sea level and all that conductiveness

1097
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:25,359
and so on

1098
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,880
so i just would like to say you know the

1099
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,800
book that was written about that i think

1100
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:30,640
we remembered it it's called shake off

1101
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,000
the devil

1102
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:34,480
author came out of new york city moved

1103
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:35,839
himself to new orleans

1104
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:38,480
and really threw himself into the story

1105
00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:40,880
but the sadness i discovered about

1106
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:43,119
i haven't even read the book chad bought

1107
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:44,720
it i didn't even want the book because

1108
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:45,920
we'd already lived

1109
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:48,160
craziness in that apartment yeah what

1110
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:49,119
have you but

1111
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:52,240
but ours i never as as i said

1112
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:54,000
we had some evilness expressed to us

1113
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:55,440
from the humans

1114
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:57,440
the living humans i don't remember

1115
00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:58,640
anything dark or

1116
00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:01,680
evil you gotta i've got to i've got to

1117
00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:02,079
believe

1118
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:05,359
that like uh i mean the

1119
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:06,800
i don't know what type of drugs they

1120
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:08,720
were on but like if you leave your

1121
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,839
your mental state and a you know if you

1122
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:13,680
if you stay up for multiple days in a

1123
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:14,960
row like

1124
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,200
people can go crazy just off of no sleep

1125
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:19,119
well if you introduce drugs or you know

1126
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,480
cocaine or meth or i don't know i i

1127
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:24,800
i just you know let your imagination run

1128
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:25,599
wild with that

1129
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:28,240
yeah okay well then also you add on top

1130
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:30,400
of that the third thing is poltergeist

1131
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:32,000
activity and and

1132
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:34,960
the possibility of of an each an evil

1133
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,079
spirit

1134
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:38,160
reaching in through this i mean i'm

1135
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:39,119
going to go ahead and say it

1136
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:40,960
there's a freaking portal there there's

1137
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:43,119
got to be some kind of oh yeah

1138
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:46,480
there's got to be some doorway yeah

1139
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:50,160
amen brother yeah yeah so you have that

1140
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:51,920
that open doorway on top of that and

1141
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:53,440
when you i mean there's a reason why

1142
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:53,839
they

1143
00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:57,200
why uh native americans called spirits

1144
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:01,040
spirits right like absolutely

1145
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,560
joe i think you're the one that told me

1146
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:04,319
about that yeah yeah about

1147
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:07,440
this uh letting your your

1148
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:10,800
uh your body in your mind kind of

1149
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:14,000
let these spirits into your your psyche

1150
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:15,839
i mean you add all that up the alcohol

1151
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:16,400
the boo

1152
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,720
guys activity and then this doorway of

1153
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:22,400
who knows what can walk through that

1154
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:24,839
thing oh absolutely

1155
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:27,520
yeah totally so i believe if

1156
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:29,920
i understood correctly again we have the

1157
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,640
book

1158
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:32,160
we loaned it to somebody and i don't

1159
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:33,599
think it's quite made it back to us i

1160
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:35,200
think we left it in new orleans

1161
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:36,880
when we left there a couple months ago

1162
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,319
but

1163
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:40,000
what little i was seeing about the book

1164
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:42,079
i was disappointed because

1165
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:44,800
dude has written this whole huge book

1166
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,400
about this story it's a

1167
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:47,920
it's a big one they're gonna they're

1168
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:49,920
making lots of movies out of this i mean

1169
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:51,920
talk about movie of the week

1170
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,720
but what i was detecting from this is he

1171
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:56,560
wasn't seeing nothing paranormal

1172
00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:58,480
high strangeness about any of this he

1173
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:01,599
was wrapping it all up to dude had ptsd

1174
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:04,560
from iraq right well yeah nobody's

1175
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:06,079
saying that's not true

1176
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:08,880
right but again what about us and what

1177
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:10,240
about people like us

1178
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:13,520
who've had these insane experiences

1179
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:15,680
yeah yeah that's just it's just one

1180
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:17,520
person's perspective i mean that that

1181
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:18,160
when you

1182
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,359
he's a trusted source because because he

1183
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:24,880
was a part of the military does it

1184
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:25,839
really

1185
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:28,079
i mean it doesn't account for for the

1186
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:29,680
voodoo priestess

1187
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:32,960
the area the the all the

1188
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:35,680
extra stuff that's happening and i guess

1189
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:37,040
i don't know like i haven't read the

1190
00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:38,240
book so i don't know

1191
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,760
uh if he goes into any of the

1192
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:41,920
poltergeisty

1193
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:44,720
type stuff in the book he doesn't so i

1194
00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:45,599
mean it's

1195
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:48,800
it's a very disingenuous uh you know

1196
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,920
portrayal of what happened that was why

1197
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:52,640
i stopped

1198
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:55,280
reading it i went through it looking for

1199
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:55,680
this

1200
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,119
information and no that wasn't there

1201
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:01,680
everything seemed to be sized up to ptsd

1202
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,640
and i was just

1203
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:04,720
i just thought well this is sad you know

1204
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,400
what let's leave it open to the

1205
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:08,240
possibility that at one point maybe

1206
00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:09,520
there was

1207
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:11,599
some of that in the original manuscript

1208
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,880
and maybe the publisher just

1209
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,079
wouldn't allow it i mean that's a

1210
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:16,880
possibility too we just don't know

1211
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:20,400
we we wrote a little book and it all got

1212
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:23,680
wheedled down to you know

1213
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:26,160
a portion of our true story so we so

1214
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:27,359
understand that

1215
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:30,400
yeah and then

1216
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:33,920
so after this so ten years after we

1217
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:34,640
lived there

1218
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:37,119
the zach and addie happened ten years

1219
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:38,880
after zach and addie

1220
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:41,280
they had another fire there and it

1221
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:42,800
almost it pretty much

1222
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,390
how many years i can't remember right

1223
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,079
now i'm not good with math

1224
00:46:01,349 --> 00:46:00,640
we have been gone many many years we

1225
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:01,359
returned

1226
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:04,960
we left there in 2001 nor louisiana we

1227
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:06,480
returned in

1228
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:09,760
20 help me chad

1229
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:12,960
uh 16. 16.

1230
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:15,520
and we were there a short amount of time

1231
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:16,079
after

1232
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:19,040
being gone all those years 15 years and

1233
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:19,920
all of a sudden

1234
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,960
our apartment's on fire and the temple

1235
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:23,920
is pretty gutted

1236
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:26,880
it's over and it was crazy it was crazy

1237
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:28,000
because it happened right after

1238
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:30,560
returned not anything to do with chad

1239
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:31,839
and alton but

1240
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:34,400
again just as people call it

1241
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:36,319
coincidental and i say no i'm pretty

1242
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:37,520
sure that doesn't exist

1243
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:41,040
but what everyone wants to call it yeah

1244
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:43,520
hey little little side note if if you

1245
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:44,800
guys ever

1246
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:48,079
met a uh a publisher that would be

1247
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:49,599
willing to

1248
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:52,960
uh produce the entirety

1249
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:55,040
of of the book that you all originally

1250
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:56,640
wrote would you all ever think about

1251
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,480
re-releasing that

1252
00:47:02,309 --> 00:47:00,480
oh you know that was the first thought

1253
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:02,319
that never leaves us

1254
00:47:08,829 --> 00:47:05,599
ever so that would be an absolute

1255
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:08,839
yes yes absolutely yes doesn't jimmy

1256
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:10,000
because

1257
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:12,880
sharing with you all has been you know

1258
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:14,880
lovingly i might add and i say

1259
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:17,920
and i say that because i was told maybe

1260
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:21,280
i talk too much maybe we talk too much

1261
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:23,440
people get bored so on and so forth

1262
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,640
they're only interested in that

1263
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:26,880
particular event that took place and

1264
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,319
that we're getting up to that we're

1265
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:30,720
leading into in 1997

1266
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:33,599
and i'm like really all the rest of this

1267
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:34,800
really

1268
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:37,119
means nothing that's just because

1269
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:38,480
everything we've shared with you for the

1270
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:40,400
most part has been cut out of our story

1271
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:42,160
out of our yeah well i'd like to think

1272
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:42,480
that

1273
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:45,119
most of our listeners enjoy the details

1274
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,400
i mean everybody that

1275
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,640
they love it yeah so yeah don't ever

1276
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:49,920
feel like you should uh

1277
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:53,040
have to uh contain yourself to the

1278
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:55,040
to the the high points and stuff i mean

1279
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,440
i i i know me and joe love

1280
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:59,280
hearing the details and that's why we've

1281
00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:01,359
enjoyed talking to you guys so much is

1282
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:02,480
because you're

1283
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,920
well i mean we don't have to ask you to

1284
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:05,680
go into detail that's where you really

1285
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:06,480
get

1286
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:10,400
the uh you have to ask yeah well also

1287
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:11,440
it's like

1288
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:14,079
a lot of time not a lot of times but you

1289
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:15,599
can hear someone's story

1290
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:18,480
and either they're not willing to go

1291
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:20,160
into detail because they're afraid that

1292
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:21,920
you're gonna sound crazy

1293
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:23,839
or or they're gonna sound crazy or they

1294
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,760
go into too much detail and it's like oh

1295
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:27,200
we're boring you to death so it's like

1296
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:28,960
this happy medium i feel like

1297
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:30,960
you guys have are really good

1298
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:32,240
storytellers and

1299
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:34,960
uh so you guys are are on on a great

1300
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,680
line here and

1301
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:37,440
i mean i wouldn't be getting you know

1302
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:39,040
text messages about hey

1303
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:40,720
uh when's the second part coming out

1304
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:43,280
yeah yeah but we're just so

1305
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,000
appreciative and and again to me the

1306
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:48,400
idea of having the opportunity

1307
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,319
you know to be public with this because

1308
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:52,160
we didn't go public originally because

1309
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:54,160
we chose to we were asked to and we

1310
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,119
trusted

1311
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:57,599
and then you know we discovered at that

1312
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:59,119
point we got to get on with it because

1313
00:49:01,270 --> 00:49:00,800
we're already out there we've already

1314
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:01,280
been

1315
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:04,960
outed somewhat out of trust well okay

1316
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,119
we're not lying we're not making nothing

1317
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:09,599
up we are expressing exactly as we've

1318
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:11,599
experienced and so

1319
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:14,800
we've just continued this story because

1320
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:17,359
i have to tell you i get bored very

1321
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:18,319
easily

1322
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:23,359
as boring

1323
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:25,680
maybe i'm just crazy or whatever maybe i

1324
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:26,720
really am

1325
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,000
but i i am entertained yeah

1326
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:32,400
no i i understand that completely

1327
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,440
because after

1328
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:35,520
10 minutes of something i'm bored and

1329
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:37,680
that's that's why we did this podcast

1330
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,760
is because it's the one thing that is

1331
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:41,119
not boring

1332
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:44,559
all the time nor are either of you guys

1333
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:47,040
but we've done this a lot and and i

1334
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:48,079
never made it up

1335
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:49,920
yeah y'all are winning my top our our

1336
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,069
he's being so funny

1337
00:50:01,270 --> 00:50:00,319
so grateful for this experience and to

1338
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:01,280
be able to express

1339
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:04,240
ourselves so as we're having this happen

1340
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,800
to us

1341
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:06,400
and then as we mentioned you know the

1342
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,920
zack addie business

1343
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:09,920
back to us again moving our story

1344
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:11,280
forward if you're

1345
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:14,000
up for it yeah certainly if there's any

1346
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:16,000
more questions about zach and addie

1347
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:17,839
i think we've you know kind of

1348
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:19,839
highlighted it as best as we can

1349
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,760
yeah no i want to i want to hear what

1350
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:23,280
what i want to get i mean

1351
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:24,880
i'm not putting any pressure on it but i

1352
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:26,650
want to hear about the lizard monkey

1353
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:29,119
[Laughter]

1354
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:32,000
it's coming down the road now okay okay

1355
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:33,040
so

1356
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:38,079
things have not gone well between chad

1357
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:46,069
it's just uncomfortable and we're ready

1358
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:47,280
to move on in life

1359
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:49,839
we'd like to move into the quarter come

1360
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:51,760
from the outskirts and move in

1361
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:53,599
we've worked very hard to establish

1362
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:54,880
ourselves there

1363
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:57,359
chad's doing quite well now chad is now

1364
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,440
starting becoming an entrepreneur

1365
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:01,200
he's doing his own thing he's starting a

1366
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:03,280
little cleaning business and

1367
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:04,800
he's just doing all kinds of yeah they

1368
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,880
work on the courtyards because everybody

1369
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,000
you know

1370
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:10,559
that everybody had a courtyard so i

1371
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,520
loved working

1372
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,000
you know out in the gardens and

1373
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,000
fountains and all that kind of stuff

1374
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:18,000
so chad's doing chad's starting to do

1375
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:19,440
his own thing

1376
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,200
i happen to be you know i hesitate even

1377
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:25,119
mentioning but it seems important to the

1378
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,800
story i happen to be a reader a

1379
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:28,640
professional reader

1380
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,559
i i didn't want to ever acknowledge

1381
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,880
in my lifetime that i had abilities that

1382
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:36,000
was my mother's love

1383
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:38,800
about me because my mom had none her

1384
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,680
definition

1385
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:41,680
right she knew she had she used to call

1386
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:43,599
me very strange but she loved that

1387
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:45,440
strangeness about me

1388
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,720
and so right and so um

1389
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:50,640
once we land in the quarter i'm in the

1390
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:51,760
land of

1391
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:55,200
so it's just they call it the big easy

1392
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:56,800
the quarter new orleans called the big

1393
00:52:02,230 --> 00:51:58,720
easy well it's not

1394
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:02,240
but if you find your niche you fall into

1395
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,440
that groove

1396
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,160
and it's and it can be very productive

1397
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:07,839
and next thing i know

1398
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:09,760
i didn't ask for it it got handed to me

1399
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,160
to become a professional reader

1400
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:14,640
so i don't want to get into all that

1401
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:15,440
because i've never

1402
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:17,680
not one time ever used our experiences

1403
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:19,920
in any opportunity we've been given

1404
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:22,240
to be public to ever make money off of

1405
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:23,200
this because i

1406
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:25,280
that's never been our interest our

1407
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:26,640
interest is to share

1408
00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:29,839
honestly what is happening to us so i

1409
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:31,760
just so happen to become a reader

1410
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:34,079
and i'm good that's just all there is to

1411
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:35,760
it i'm good enough to be i'm the only

1412
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:36,240
reader

1413
00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:38,720
picked to be in a book about new orleans

1414
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:40,079
written by a

1415
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:41,760
journalist with the washington post

1416
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:43,599
she's got enough of me to do this

1417
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:45,760
right awesome that was crazy that was

1418
00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:48,400
just crazy okay i'll i'll take it

1419
00:52:52,309 --> 00:52:50,240
so at this stage of our lives we're

1420
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:52,319
coming along i've got some

1421
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:54,640
attention i didn't ask for but it came

1422
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:55,440
to me

1423
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:57,920
and i'm becoming kind of known no big

1424
00:53:02,069 --> 00:53:00,160
deal no celebrity just no

1425
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:02,079
chad's doing quite nicely for himself

1426
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:03,520
we're coming along well

1427
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:06,640
we're making a comfortable life

1428
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:10,480
at this time now we can afford to live

1429
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:12,640
a much more comfortable life not in a

1430
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:14,079
haunted not in a haunted

1431
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:16,960
apartment it got weirder well i think

1432
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:19,359
they're all haunted

1433
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:21,119
use that word i mean you just you don't

1434
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:22,720
move up you move you move

1435
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:25,760
out uh in dealings with these hauntings

1436
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:26,640
and so on

1437
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:28,960
okay so but the creepy they're here's

1438
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,240
some more creepy

1439
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:32,880
and creepy this is this this is the [\h__\h]

1440
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:34,240
that really

1441
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:36,240
i've had a very hard time wrapping my

1442
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:38,240
brain around all the rest of it's just

1443
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:39,119
weird

1444
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:42,400
okay so oh [\h__\h] right

1445
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:44,640
so i take employment i become a

1446
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:45,520
contractor

1447
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:48,559
with a family-owned business in the

1448
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:49,680
french quarter

1449
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:52,160
they've been in business since 1929.

1450
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:54,079
when i say the family they ran it like a

1451
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:55,040
little mafia

1452
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:58,160
they were the band and they kept it

1453
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,280
tight they kept

1454
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,359
everything tight within the family

1455
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:03,440
started their business in 1929 they had

1456
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:03,760
two

1457
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:06,160
shops in the quarter they'd been 70

1458
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,880
years by the time i came on board

1459
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:10,800
so that's who i go to work for because

1460
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:12,480
they're they're working with

1461
00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:14,400
everybody and anybody that's out in the

1462
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:15,839
world so we got everything from

1463
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,920
celebrity all the way down to

1464
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:19,440
you know just anybody who's walking in

1465
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:21,280
to get a reading tourism

1466
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:22,720
and they like to make they like to make

1467
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:24,800
some pasta sometimes you know get a nice

1468
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,559
little pairing with some some wine here

1469
00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:28,480
and there maybe some garlic

1470
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:33,440
here with them well you know them well

1471
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:36,000
that's right and so that's who i go to

1472
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:36,640
work for

1473
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:39,680
so i call it it's a salon they

1474
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:42,240
they started off as a tea house back in

1475
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:43,680
1929

1476
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:46,720
they served tea and little sandwiches

1477
00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:49,280
little to the socialites who had all the

1478
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:51,200
money that didn't live in the quarter

1479
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,559
they'd have their drivers now we're

1480
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:54,319
talking 1929 so some of them are

1481
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:55,280
carriages

1482
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:57,200
bring them into the quarter they'd drop

1483
00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:59,040
them off at the front door

1484
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,799
everybody would see all these socialites

1485
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:02,400
coming into the shop

1486
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,440
to get their tea and crumpet

1487
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:07,280
but they'd slip off into a back room and

1488
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:09,280
get a reading and then they'd slip out a

1489
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,000
back door

1490
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:12,480
because back in the day it was illegal

1491
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:14,079
even in new orleans

1492
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:17,119
to do greetings yeah i didn't know that

1493
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,319
that thing was ever illegal i know

1494
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:23,520
it was quakers bro

1495
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:25,200
so they doing it all you know they doing

1496
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:27,040
it all like this okay so this is who i

1497
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:28,480
went to work for

1498
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:31,680
well the minute

1499
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:34,880
that i come on board in this

1500
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:37,920
shop there's a female

1501
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:41,440
that is uh she dresses

1502
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,760
very expensive and she's flowing around

1503
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:47,520
the shop like she's one of the family

1504
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:49,440
members they got a lot of family

1505
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:51,920
between the two shops running these

1506
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:52,559
shops

1507
00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:55,359
so i'm thinking she looks like not

1508
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:56,720
necessarily physically

1509
00:56:02,390 --> 00:55:59,920
but her actions her attitude she's more

1510
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:02,400
of a snob than any of them so i'm

1511
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,280
thinking

1512
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:05,359
she gotta own this business you know

1513
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:06,640
there's a lot of people for me to get to

1514
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:07,440
know

1515
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:09,280
well her name i'll just say her first

1516
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:11,280
name was joe

1517
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,240
so when we when we first meet i'm not

1518
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:16,559
aware who she is i just know she sets up

1519
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:18,000
my appointments

1520
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:20,000
she's you know setting my schedule so on

1521
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:21,599
and so forth

1522
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:23,599
each time that i'm around her she gives

1523
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:25,680
me the effing creeps

1524
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:28,640
now i don't get that a lot with a lot of

1525
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:30,079
people because again i'm a friendly

1526
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:31,680
kind of sort until you give me a reason

1527
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:33,520
differently yeah but with her

1528
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,920
it was never comfortable yeah and this

1529
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:38,000
is this is how it went down

1530
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:40,000
i'll try to speed that story up i kept

1531
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:41,119
saying to her

1532
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:44,319
periodically i know you i know

1533
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:47,680
you how do i know you next to me

1534
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:48,960
originally is

1535
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:51,680
of course you do everyone does just a

1536
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:54,400
very narcissistic kind of response

1537
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:56,960
and i'm like well yeah no i don't get

1538
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:58,799
into that so we got something else going

1539
00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:00,319
on here

1540
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:02,720
well okay come to find out she just

1541
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:03,680
hired help

1542
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:08,319
just she has that error about her

1543
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:10,640
yeah so when i discover this next thing

1544
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:12,079
i'm discovering

1545
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:16,240
is trying to speed that story up

1546
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:19,280
i never physically knew her but this is

1547
00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:20,880
what we discovered

1548
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:24,559
she moved to new orleans from a little

1549
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:27,359
place in virginia that nobody's ever

1550
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:29,119
heard about

1551
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:32,559
okay that little place had a population

1552
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:33,839
of

1553
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:36,480
several hundred tiny place up in the

1554
00:57:39,910 --> 00:57:37,839
middle of virginia

1555
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:39,920
blue ridge mountains that's where this

1556
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:42,000
woman moved from

1557
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:45,359
so i find out her last name

1558
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:47,040
and then i find out where she's moved

1559
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:49,280
from

1560
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:52,319
chad and i lived yeah

1561
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:53,839
what does that sound familiar blue ridge

1562
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:55,680
mountains yeah

1563
00:58:02,870 --> 00:57:59,280
yeah chad and i chad's mother

1564
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:02,880
grandmother and uncle and other family

1565
00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:03,680
members

1566
00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:06,079
lived in that little tiny community up

1567
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:08,960
in the blue ridge mountains wow

1568
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:12,079
chad and i moved there the year after we

1569
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:13,760
got married in 1991

1570
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:16,240
we're now into 92 somewhere in that time

1571
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:17,680
frame we go there

1572
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:19,200
because chad has a grandma that's got

1573
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:20,799
alzheimer's and

1574
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:23,440
and his mother had to work so we moved

1575
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:24,079
there

1576
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:26,240
got a big beautiful victorian home lots

1577
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:27,680
of space lots of room

1578
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:31,200
we moved there to help care for nanny

1579
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:33,040
and start our own business and just try

1580
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:34,400
to get on with life

1581
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:37,440
well we stayed there about a year or so

1582
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:40,559
and then we decided to uh leave there

1583
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,640
and join my mother in louisiana

1584
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,079
i mentioned that the first go around

1585
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:45,920
when we first visited with you all my

1586
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:46,640
mom

1587
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:48,640
moved to louisiana invited us to move

1588
00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:50,079
there so we decided

1589
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:52,480
to go well that story prior to that is

1590
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:54,160
we're living in virginia in this little

1591
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:55,520
tiny town

1592
00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:56,960
that i thought nobody ever heard of

1593
00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:58,960
before oh when i

1594
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:01,440
when i'm talking to this joke character

1595
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:02,400
we find out

1596
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:05,760
she's from there that's where she's from

1597
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:09,200
whoa now what's real crazy is she

1598
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:10,160
married

1599
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:13,599
the money and her last name i won't say

1600
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:14,000
it

1601
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,400
but her last name is all over that town

1602
00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:18,480
her last name is the library

1603
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:22,880
the funeral home the funeral home

1604
00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:26,400
the grocery stores the man see mary they

1605
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:27,920
own that towel

1606
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,520
and that's her last name and she held on

1607
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:31,680
to the last name after she divorced this

1608
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:32,880
guy

1609
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,480
okay so what's she doing in louisiana

1610
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:38,400
what she's doing in louisiana is she

1611
00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:41,680
lost 200 pounds or got surgery

1612
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:44,960
she changed obviously dramatically

1613
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:47,280
from being you know a plus size plus

1614
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:48,079
size

1615
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:51,200
to a skinny mini and she's going through

1616
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:52,880
her second stage of life

1617
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:56,160
at this time we meet her she's late 40s

1618
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:58,240
somewhere in that age range she's got

1619
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,280
her kids grown

1620
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:01,920
she's divorced she moves to new orleans

1621
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:03,760
apparently to the quarter in particular

1622
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:06,160
because she was an amazing

1623
01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:09,520
seamstress an amazing costume maker so

1624
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:10,640
she got involved with the movie

1625
01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:11,440
companies

1626
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:13,760
cool and was right making herself a

1627
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,000
little smaller fortune on the side

1628
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:18,480
well when times were rough she's now

1629
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:20,160
working in my shop and i'm thinking

1630
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:21,200
she's the owner

1631
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:24,160
and she's just operating this shop okay

1632
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,960
so

1633
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:26,960
i tell you that background because i

1634
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:29,680
knew the minute i was around her

1635
01:00:33,750 --> 01:00:32,480
it was familiar now that that was just

1636
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,760
creepy in itself

1637
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:35,760
okay so then when we find out we got

1638
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:37,440
this weird

1639
01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:41,040
small town history like oh this is

1640
01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:43,760
this is and for me it felt creepy i

1641
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:44,720
wasn't feeling

1642
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:48,240
necessarily relieved by all this okay

1643
01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:52,160
now i make it clear to her

1644
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:54,079
and anybody that will hear me we got to

1645
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:55,359
have a new home

1646
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:57,760
we have got to leave that temple we

1647
01:01:02,470 --> 01:00:59,599
can't stay there any longer

1648
01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:02,480
it feels dangerous and we need to move

1649
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:03,599
and we need

1650
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:06,640
we need to move she

1651
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:10,240
is uh managing

1652
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:12,880
an uh a building in the middle of the

1653
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:13,440
quarter

1654
01:01:17,109 --> 01:01:16,240
everybody wants to live and you pay a

1655
01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:17,119
lot of money

1656
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:19,359
to live like you see these things on

1657
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:20,559
television with people on their

1658
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:22,079
balconies and they're throwing the beads

1659
01:01:26,470 --> 01:01:24,240
out and all the parades

1660
01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:26,480
that's where she's living and she's not

1661
01:01:31,030 --> 01:01:28,160
owning that building

1662
01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:31,040
she manages it she kind of subletted the

1663
01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:31,520
whole

1664
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:33,200
she sublet it thank you i couldn't think

1665
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:34,960
of the word the dude that owned it was

1666
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:35,280
this

1667
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:38,720
lovely veterinarian who'd been

1668
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:42,000
you know new orleans probably 300 years

1669
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:43,839
his family lined like blue blood

1670
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:46,720
oh cool and he he gave her you know

1671
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,400
pretty much the rights to do with that

1672
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:50,240
as she please put in there anybody you

1673
01:01:53,109 --> 01:01:51,040
like

1674
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,119
just as long as whatever okay she

1675
01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:54,960
decides it's going to be us

1676
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:57,520
yay we're going to move we're moving up

1677
01:02:01,990 --> 01:01:58,640
town

1678
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:02,000
so we think right

1679
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:05,440
you think exactly so she's she's

1680
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:07,599
she's going to move up to the penthouse

1681
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:09,039
to the top of the building

1682
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:10,400
and we're going to take over her

1683
01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:12,400
apartment all right

1684
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:14,880
so before she can get all her stuff out

1685
01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:17,200
of there up moved upstairs

1686
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:18,799
we tell her don't worry about it you

1687
01:02:22,710 --> 01:02:20,880
know it's just chad nelson

1688
01:02:24,470 --> 01:02:22,720
we're all kind of little family now

1689
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:24,480
we'll help you don't worry about

1690
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:25,280
anything

1691
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:26,720
because we just want to give them get it

1692
01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:28,799
whenever you want you know so chad and i

1693
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:30,640
are over there one afternoon before we

1694
01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:32,400
get moved in as we're getting ourselves

1695
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:34,240
kind of sized up and what are we moving

1696
01:02:37,029 --> 01:02:35,200
into

1697
01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:37,039
let me just say this without taking up a

1698
01:02:41,349 --> 01:02:38,520
whole lot of time it was

1699
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:41,359
unbelievable what we were moving into

1700
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:43,200
we're coming out of a small apartment

1701
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,640
above the voodoo temple

1702
01:02:49,109 --> 01:02:46,720
on the outskirts of the community we're

1703
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:49,119
now moving into a suite

1704
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:51,119
that had we had a chandelier in our

1705
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:52,319
bathroom

1706
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:55,280
we had a chandelier in our living room

1707
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:55,920
we had

1708
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:58,799
louie the some something furniture from

1709
01:03:03,430 --> 01:03:00,160
one end of that house

1710
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:03,440
to the end our bed looked like something

1711
01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:04,799
out of a castle

1712
01:03:12,069 --> 01:03:08,640
i cannot exaggerate a small

1713
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:12,079
grand piano the door

1714
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:14,160
the the door handles were they made of

1715
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:15,200
crystal

1716
01:03:19,589 --> 01:03:18,000
like that clear it was a glass i mean

1717
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:19,599
absolutely close enough

1718
01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:21,280
when i'm telling you when i'm telling

1719
01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:22,720
you a crystal chandelier in your

1720
01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:23,599
bathroom

1721
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:26,799
i mean yeah that's a shiny shine that's

1722
01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:27,359
super

1723
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:30,720
have a chandelier where you have to take

1724
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:31,280
a [\h__\h]

1725
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:37,029
we knew we'd made it right as soon as i

1726
01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:39,200
saw that chandelier in the bathroom

1727
01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:40,720
okay so that you know just kind of

1728
01:03:45,349 --> 01:03:42,319
painting that picture of

1729
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:45,359
unbelief a gilded cage let me say that

1730
01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:48,720
that's what we moved into so before we

1731
01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:50,000
move into it

1732
01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:52,960
she's got boxes of her stuff in the

1733
01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:54,000
living room

1734
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:56,160
all kind of just thrown in and stacked

1735
01:04:01,750 --> 01:03:58,720
and so on and so forth well

1736
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:01,760
when we walked in i'm i'm about to admit

1737
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:03,760
you know people just hate this part of

1738
01:04:06,069 --> 01:04:05,520
me and i hate this part of me of what i

1739
01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:06,079
did

1740
01:04:13,029 --> 01:04:09,839
when we walked in there

1741
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:13,039
we saw this box of books well

1742
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:16,079
at the top of that box of books is what

1743
01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:18,079
looks like a diary

1744
01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:21,200
or some kind of notebook with a

1745
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:24,720
little latch on it let's see

1746
01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:26,170
yeah did i mention diary

1747
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:29,920
[Laughter]

1748
01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:32,480
did you read it well just like i told

1749
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:34,559
you all that i told you when the minute

1750
01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:37,200
i smelled her i knew her

1751
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:39,440
that's exactly what i felt about that

1752
01:04:42,309 --> 01:04:40,480
book that

1753
01:04:43,829 --> 01:04:42,319
diary looking thing at the top of that

1754
01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:43,839
box of books

1755
01:04:51,829 --> 01:04:48,160
i felt like i was in it i told chad

1756
01:04:52,710 --> 01:04:51,839
as i got closer to it i just know i'm in

1757
01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:52,720
this book

1758
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:54,720
i just know it well chad's pretty sure

1759
01:05:02,710 --> 01:04:57,200
i'm nuts at this stage

1760
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,630
i'll get quiet chad

1761
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:10,230
why would she write about you alta right

1762
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:14,720
right okay so that pissed me off

1763
01:05:19,430 --> 01:05:17,680
and so i sure did and he stood right

1764
01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:19,440
there and saw it with me he can say

1765
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:20,960
whatever he wants

1766
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:23,599
i did it now i don't do these things i'm

1767
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:25,440
not that kind of person

1768
01:05:31,510 --> 01:05:28,960
i'm reading it i'm reading a heartbeat

1769
01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:31,520
and i'll tell you what out to start it

1770
01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:32,960
on the first pages

1771
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:36,079
she's sure did she sure in the f did

1772
01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:39,440
what we started when we opened up when

1773
01:05:44,870 --> 01:05:41,599
i opened it and he's over my shoulder

1774
01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:48,309
i see my name now alta the only other

1775
01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:50,000
i'd ever heard of was his grandfather

1776
01:05:56,630 --> 01:05:53,760
who's dead she has written my name

1777
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:56,640
and now i can't stop i'm going through

1778
01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:57,920
these pages

1779
01:06:01,029 --> 01:06:00,319
and she's talking about me like i'm some

1780
01:06:03,829 --> 01:06:01,039
lover

1781
01:06:04,870 --> 01:06:03,839
like she's in love with me now i'm

1782
01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:04,880
effing

1783
01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:07,200
flipping out she was talking about your

1784
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:09,200
grandpa dude

1785
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:11,599
that's it yeah i like that we'd like to

1786
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:12,799
think that

1787
01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:14,960
because as we're as i'm turning the

1788
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:16,079
pages

1789
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:18,799
all this flowy really beautiful writing

1790
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:19,920
very beautiful

1791
01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:22,799
penmanship and flowy language starts to

1792
01:06:26,069 --> 01:06:23,119
get

1793
01:06:27,510 --> 01:06:26,079
erratic and you can tell with each page

1794
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:27,520
that's turning

1795
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:29,440
she's losing her [\h__\h] mind and she's

1796
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:31,200
writing about me

1797
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:35,039
is erotic or erratic

1798
01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:38,400
erratic she becomes a rat i'm talking

1799
01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:39,119
about she

1800
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:42,079
writes like she is going full-blown nuts

1801
01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:43,760
like she's going nuts

1802
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:47,359
like psychotic and and it goes from this

1803
01:06:50,950 --> 01:06:49,119
beautiful writing chad's looking at me

1804
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:50,960
because he's shaking his head because

1805
01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:53,520
we're it's just so bizarre to repeat

1806
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:54,720
this

1807
01:06:57,910 --> 01:06:57,440
she's become so erratic in her writing

1808
01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:57,920
so

1809
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:59,680
scribbly we don't even know what the

1810
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:01,760
[\h__\h] she's saying anymore

1811
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:04,880
but what i remember reading

1812
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:08,079
is that she is following she is

1813
01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:10,240
following me around the quarter

1814
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:13,599
she's talking about she's pacing me

1815
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:14,880
she's following me

1816
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:18,559
and she's describing where i'm walking

1817
01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:21,680
where i'm turning and i'm like

1818
01:07:27,910 --> 01:07:24,720
well i slam that book shut so fast

1819
01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:27,920
and i'm like oh what the just like

1820
01:07:32,950 --> 01:07:30,160
everything else

1821
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:32,960
like what the this doesn't happen to

1822
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:33,680
people

1823
01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:36,960
okay well you did it

1824
01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:39,440
do you think she followed you from the

1825
01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:41,440
town

1826
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:43,280
like she knew that y'all had moved to

1827
01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:44,880
louisiana yeah

1828
01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:47,119
sorry for ask i mean sorry and thank you

1829
01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:48,160
so much for

1830
01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:51,760
asking that because i what what i left

1831
01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:53,119
out was what we discovered

1832
01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:56,400
she moved there seven years before

1833
01:08:02,390 --> 01:07:59,760
we she left that small town seven years

1834
01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:02,400
before we moved there

1835
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:04,960
yeah so that that's crossed out then

1836
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:06,160
that's right right yeah

1837
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:08,720
so i've gotta i've gotta i've gotta i've

1838
01:08:13,829 --> 01:08:10,559
got a detailed question really quick

1839
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:13,839
i don't mean to hold this up but when i

1840
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:14,640
when you say

1841
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,799
erratic writing i just i just picture

1842
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:18,799
the movie um

1843
01:08:22,709 --> 01:08:22,080
with jim carrey it's called 27 yeah yeah

1844
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:22,719
yeah yeah

1845
01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:25,359
and like at the beginning he writes very

1846
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:28,239
clearly he has very good hand penmanship

1847
01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:30,640
and then towards the end it's like it's

1848
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:32,480
almost as if he's riding with like a

1849
01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:33,199
bleeding

1850
01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:36,880
big marker was it do you remember

1851
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:40,080
like i don't this is so specific like

1852
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,960
was it just this was it all the same pen

1853
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:44,880
or did she

1854
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:48,319
uh no it was different pin colors

1855
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:52,319
yeah and the end is black and nuts

1856
01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:54,239
couldn't make out what she was writing

1857
01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:55,600
wow interesting

1858
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:58,719
wow because it wasn't language it was

1859
01:09:03,030 --> 01:08:59,759
scribbling

1860
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:03,040
it was yeah you know what it was

1861
01:09:07,030 --> 01:09:04,960
it wasn't nothing i understood have you

1862
01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:07,040
heard of i just know i'm scared

1863
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:09,120
yeah have you heard of people like on

1864
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:10,239
ambien

1865
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:13,920
uh they some people they if you stay at

1866
01:09:19,669 --> 01:09:17,279
past your sleepy time you uh you get

1867
01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:19,679
like this euphoria and think that every

1868
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,679
every idea is like the best idea you've

1869
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:23,040
come up with

1870
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:25,679
you start writing [\h__\h] down yeah i

1871
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:26,960
didn't know that that

1872
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:29,120
i took it once and i fell asleep in my

1873
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:30,239
spaghetti

1874
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:47,590
and she said that in her husband said

1875
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:48,319
that if

1876
01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:51,920
she stayed out or stayed up past her

1877
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:55,600
time limit of sleeping sleepy time yeah

1878
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:58,000
it she would just yeah be like a whole

1879
01:10:01,590 --> 01:09:58,960
different person

1880
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:01,600
wow i've never heard of that because i i

1881
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:03,040
didn't get past the spaghetti

1882
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:05,600
yeah yeah like you know i bought that

1883
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:07,280
smoothed out in the middle of it

1884
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,840
yeah i've never taken it but i mean it

1885
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:11,520
kind of sounds fun but like

1886
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:13,679
the stories the stories that i've heard

1887
01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:14,960
are like yeah

1888
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:17,360
you if you stay past your sleepy time

1889
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:19,760
like every idea you come up is like

1890
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:22,159
oh my god i'm a genius i have to write

1891
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:27,590
apparently no genius here because i just

1892
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:31,760
passed out in my spaghetti

1893
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:33,679
and it was sober i mean it was a pill it

1894
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:35,280
was a sleep pill that everybody was

1895
01:10:37,510 --> 01:10:35,840
taking

1896
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:37,520
yeah so there's also like alcohol

1897
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:38,960
involved in these stories as well it's

1898
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:39,760
like

1899
01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:41,600
i drink a bottle of wine or the person

1900
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:43,520
is drinking a bottle of wine and that

1901
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:45,040
could have something to do with it i

1902
01:10:50,709 --> 01:10:47,120
must have missed the bottle

1903
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:50,719
yeah yeah so you know so we see this

1904
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:53,360
slam the books shut swear to the heavens

1905
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:55,280
i will never do this again

1906
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:58,560
this is what i get so whatever and then

1907
01:11:01,669 --> 01:10:59,440
we just

1908
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:01,679
like we in it to win it because now

1909
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:03,280
we're living in a palace

1910
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:06,480
we have come from the hood we're now in

1911
01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:07,360
a palace

1912
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:08,880
we've got the balcony we're on the

1913
01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:11,920
second floor we just happy campers we're

1914
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:12,719
there

1915
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:14,880
we're just so pleased with ourselves let

1916
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:16,320
the wackos begin

1917
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:18,400
at this stage we'd already had such

1918
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:19,679
craziness in our life

1919
01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:22,719
why not yeah so

1920
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:25,360
we we we try to get on with it and we're

1921
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:26,000
getting on with

1922
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:28,560
it really well we had it seems like

1923
01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:30,719
three months seems to always be a key

1924
01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:32,480
number in our lives

1925
01:11:35,669 --> 01:11:35,199
so it feels like like we had about i

1926
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:35,679
don't know

1927
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:38,320
three months or so in that apartment

1928
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:39,440
getting on with it

1929
01:11:43,189 --> 01:11:41,440
life's moving along everything's doing

1930
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:43,199
fine we got the wackadoo

1931
01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:46,080
upstairs in her suite everybody's you

1932
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:46,880
know

1933
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:49,840
mixing and mingling quite nicely i ain't

1934
01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:51,520
thinking she's following me no more

1935
01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:53,040
because i'm living right there she don't

1936
01:11:57,189 --> 01:11:54,960
got to follow me you know it's just all

1937
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:57,199
just so yeah just make it easier yeah

1938
01:12:03,110 --> 01:11:58,800
just make it easier that's right

1939
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:03,120
so you know it's just all so bizarre now

1940
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:06,800
let's move ahead we're getting close to

1941
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,640
my birthday my birthday happens to be in

1942
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:10,800
may

1943
01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:12,719
i start chat if you don't mind sharing

1944
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:14,640
that part because it is so bizarre about

1945
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,080
what i would always say about couldn't

1946
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:18,719
wait to be oh yeah alto

1947
01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:21,360
ever since i knew her she would you know

1948
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:23,040
i can't wait till i'm 40.

1949
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:26,239
something very special or something

1950
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:29,280
life-changing is going to happen to me

1951
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:32,560
on my birthday i now what woman wants to

1952
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:33,600
be 40

1953
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:36,960
yeah yeah you know or what man

1954
01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:40,080
any either way you know yeah right you

1955
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:41,760
know i mean it's kind of one of the and

1956
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:44,000
especially women you know god you know

1957
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:46,560
once you hit 40 you're you know over the

1958
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:48,239
hill or something but

1959
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:52,880
yeah she would always say this but um

1960
01:12:59,669 --> 01:12:56,320
you know and then when she hits 40

1961
01:13:03,350 --> 01:12:59,679
and i'll let her kind of tell that

1962
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:03,360
but um she she'll be right back she had

1963
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:03,760
to

1964
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:06,000
step away for a second no no worries man

1965
01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:08,000
yeah no worries

1966
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:10,560
she's here it was it was this this kind

1967
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,920
of overlooming like

1968
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:13,440
oh my gosh something's gonna happen when

1969
01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:15,040
i'm 40. like you knew

1970
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,760
something was i always knew right i

1971
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:18,880
always knew

1972
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,000
excited

1973
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:24,560
and inquisitive like a little kid and

1974
01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:26,320
that language was always consistent

1975
01:13:31,510 --> 01:13:28,960
like chad said i started that apparently

1976
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:31,520
years before because i was 33 when i met

1977
01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:33,600
him or when we were arranged my favorite

1978
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:34,640
word

1979
01:13:38,709 --> 01:13:37,760
and so and so have you all ever heard of

1980
01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:38,719
the

1981
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:43,199
no i haven't heard of that sounds

1982
01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:44,880
awesome so

1983
01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:46,719
you might want to check her out she's

1984
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:48,000
quite famous her name is

1985
01:13:51,070 --> 01:13:50,320
eve lorjan i think as i'm pronouncing

1986
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:51,080
her last name

1987
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:55,040
okay

1988
01:13:59,430 --> 01:13:57,280
i she's been involved in the ufo world

1989
01:14:02,470 --> 01:13:59,440
for 20 30 years

1990
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:02,480
and she wrote this book 10

1991
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:05,280
15 20 years ago i'm not sure called

1992
01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:07,120
alien love bite it was the closest side

1993
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:07,520
ever

1994
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:09,280
it's very different than our story but

1995
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:11,920
she's taken several of these cases

1996
01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:14,400
of people like chad and i that they call

1997
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:16,239
it she calls it the alien love bite

1998
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:17,840
where we are arranged

1999
01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:20,320
yeah and very specifically yeah it came

2000
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:21,360
out in uh

2001
01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:24,800
uh 2 000. oh

2002
01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:26,239
i'm looking it up right now i'm on the

2003
01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:29,520
computer in february in february

2004
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:32,239
february oh on february 14th yeah on

2005
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:34,159
valentine's day

2006
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:37,280
no yeah craze has arranged on

2007
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:40,080
valentine's that's crazy

2008
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:43,440
so okay so i'm getting on with it can't

2009
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:44,080
wait to be

2010
01:14:48,550 --> 01:14:48,159
40. now my mom has left louisiana and

2011
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:48,560
gone

2012
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:52,480
back to arkansas in the duration of

2013
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,560
when we spoke about all of us living in

2014
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:56,480
louisiana originally

2015
01:15:01,990 --> 01:14:59,520
um mom had had decided

2016
01:15:03,590 --> 01:15:02,000
you know that wasn't a good situation

2017
01:15:04,390 --> 01:15:03,600
and so she went back to little rock

2018
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:04,400
where

2019
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:06,880
she had a home and she created an

2020
01:15:11,830 --> 01:15:09,199
amazing life for herself and so on

2021
01:15:13,590 --> 01:15:11,840
okay well at this point now we're

2022
01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:13,600
discovering mom's not doing well

2023
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:16,640
health-wise and she's all by herself

2024
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:19,440
and i miss her beyond words and she's

2025
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:20,640
missing us

2026
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:24,000
and so the plan was

2027
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:26,159
she's going to surprise me it's hard to

2028
01:15:29,189 --> 01:15:27,440
surprise me but they're going to

2029
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:29,199
surprise me and she's going to

2030
01:15:35,110 --> 01:15:33,199
come to the quarter and move there

2031
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:35,120
she's going to come specifically for my

2032
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:37,040
40th birthday

2033
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:39,440
all right cool i don't know any of this

2034
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:41,440
but i know all this and i'm so excited i

2035
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:42,640
can't hardly stand it

2036
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:44,640
chad's so excited he can't hardly stand

2037
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:46,560
it because he actually loves her

2038
01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:50,080
and she adores him that's awesome

2039
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:52,320
it's beautiful we pre-rented her a

2040
01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:53,840
mother-in-law cottage

2041
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:56,800
in our courtyard where we live in the

2042
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:58,239
slave quarter that had been turned into

2043
01:16:03,350 --> 01:15:59,520
this amazing

2044
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:03,360
in fact uh winona ryder or winona

2045
01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:05,440
judd if you have any idea who i'm

2046
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:07,199
talking about

2047
01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:10,800
no i don't but whatever i don't know

2048
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:12,480
it's not my form of music but anyhow

2049
01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:14,000
they had just done a

2050
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:16,480
they've just done a music video in the

2051
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:17,280
apartment

2052
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:19,840
in our courtyard that we've pre-rented

2053
01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:21,040
for my mom

2054
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:23,679
so mom's gonna move there and she's

2055
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:25,280
coming for my birthday and we're just

2056
01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:26,880
beside ourselves we can't

2057
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:30,960
we can't stand it so

2058
01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:33,040
life is very strange isn't it because my

2059
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:34,640
mom died on that day

2060
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:38,000
she never got a little rock she died

2061
01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:41,120
what not only did she die

2062
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:43,040
just like all the rest of the insanity

2063
01:16:47,189 --> 01:16:45,520
she died to the minute she had just told

2064
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:47,199
me i was born

2065
01:16:52,870 --> 01:16:50,320
i had only asked her a week prior long

2066
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:52,880
distance because the woman i worked for

2067
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:55,760
wanted to do an astrological chart on me

2068
01:16:58,630 --> 01:16:56,400
well

2069
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:58,640
you got to know your birth information i

2070
01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:00,560
don't even hardly know my name

2071
01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:03,840
so i call my mom and i say mom

2072
01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:06,560
i got a really crazy question can you

2073
01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:08,719
even begin to remember

2074
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:11,440
what time i'm born and she said of

2075
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:13,280
course i'll tell you don't forget that

2076
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:14,800
well i never had kids

2077
01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:17,600
you know i i can forget that and she

2078
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:18,640
said

2079
01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:27,760
immediate it was immediate matter of

2080
01:17:32,149 --> 01:17:30,080
fact matter of fact that's right

2081
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:32,159
so i get this chart done i don't know

2082
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:33,600
anything about astrology

2083
01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:35,199
i'm not into any of all of that i think

2084
01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:36,640
it's all beautiful but i know nothing

2085
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:37,840
about it

2086
01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:40,800
and um so i just asked her like i said a

2087
01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:42,560
week prior

2088
01:17:46,790 --> 01:17:44,400
i'd never asked before ever because i've

2089
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:46,800
never seen an original birth certificate

2090
01:17:50,470 --> 01:17:48,640
so i had no idea about any of this

2091
01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:50,480
information okay

2092
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:52,159
well that's exactly when they pronounced

2093
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:55,120
my mother dad it was on my 40th birthday

2094
01:18:02,470 --> 01:17:59,280
at that time oh my god

2095
01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:02,480
your mother was planning on moving to

2096
01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:05,360
where are you and then and then on the

2097
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:05,679
day

2098
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:12,149
sorry where she went into a well she had

2099
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:12,880
a

2100
01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:36,640
world you know

2101
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:40,080
that that's just a norm and but aside

2102
01:18:42,550 --> 01:18:40,880
from all of that

2103
01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:42,560
it was the fact that's all she'd ever

2104
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:44,000
asked to be

2105
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:45,760
and that i would have her cremated and

2106
01:18:49,189 --> 01:18:47,520
take her ashes back to the ocean

2107
01:18:51,510 --> 01:18:49,199
those are the only things she ever asked

2108
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:51,520
of me and so

2109
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:54,800
it would so happen that the forces that

2110
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,120
be

2111
01:18:59,189 --> 01:18:57,600
the gods what have you decided they're

2112
01:19:02,950 --> 01:18:59,199
gonna put her

2113
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:02,960
out the day before she has a cardiac

2114
01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:04,960
they put her on that little machine they

2115
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:07,440
got just enough they claim a beat a

2116
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:10,080
heartbeat or a something and then next

2117
01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:11,360
thing i know they got her in the

2118
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:13,600
hospital and they have her all

2119
01:19:17,350 --> 01:19:16,719
plugged in plugged in chad and i catch a

2120
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:17,360
plane

2121
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:19,199
i have no memory of that because i

2122
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:22,000
became well i became

2123
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:25,360
i became a pile of mush the moment i

2124
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:28,400
learned that my mother was going through

2125
01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:29,199
this

2126
01:19:33,830 --> 01:19:32,400
right so chad was strong he was

2127
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:33,840
suffering horribly

2128
01:19:38,709 --> 01:19:36,960
we get on a plane we get there the

2129
01:19:40,390 --> 01:19:38,719
moment we get there the day before my

2130
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:40,400
birthday i am begging her

2131
01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:42,960
surgeon let me have my mother you know

2132
01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:43,760
my mother

2133
01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:46,159
let me have her let me take her home

2134
01:19:49,750 --> 01:19:47,920
please just let me take her home

2135
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:49,760
and he was very cruel now i just sound

2136
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:51,360
like a victim and i hate that part of

2137
01:19:55,189 --> 01:19:53,280
this story because i'm not a victim

2138
01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:55,199
just repeating the insanity of what's

2139
01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:57,280
happened to us i remember

2140
01:20:01,030 --> 01:19:59,440
begging him chad's standing right there

2141
01:20:02,390 --> 01:20:01,040
and that doctor looked right at me

2142
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:02,400
there's a lot more to that but he

2143
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:03,520
basically said

2144
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:05,520
you've got to give her a chance like i

2145
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:07,920
was trying to kill my mother

2146
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:15,830
they wouldn't allow for for this to

2147
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:17,199
happen

2148
01:20:20,950 --> 01:20:19,120
and i made it clear to him in my

2149
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:20,960
insanity

2150
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:23,360
you have no idea what you're doing my

2151
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:25,760
mother will die on my 40th birthday

2152
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:27,840
i told him i told him straight out this

2153
01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:29,760
was 24 hours prior

2154
01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:32,560
well nobody's hearing me and so wouldn't

2155
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:33,600
you know

2156
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:37,120
the next day the next day

2157
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:39,280
that's exactly how it was going down my

2158
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:40,719
mom's still all plugged up

2159
01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:42,480
she's all hooked up on these machines

2160
01:20:45,830 --> 01:20:44,080
and so on and so forth

2161
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:45,840
then next thing i know after all day of

2162
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:48,000
this insanity in this hell

2163
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:49,760
they tell me i have to make the decision

2164
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:51,040
to unplug her

2165
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:52,560
now as far as i'm concerned that's

2166
01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:54,560
telling me i'm about to kill my mother

2167
01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:57,920
yeah the insanity of this so they put me

2168
01:21:01,910 --> 01:20:59,520
in a little room all by myself

2169
01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:01,920
chad gave me the grace to be alone in

2170
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,880
this room

2171
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:04,800
to talk to my mom she's not in the room

2172
01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:06,480
with me i'm in a waiting room

2173
01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:09,199
i'm on the floor and i am in the worst

2174
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:10,400
of condition

2175
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:12,320
and i'm begging for help i'm just

2176
01:21:21,189 --> 01:21:18,149
i kept screaming to the gods don't make

2177
01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:21,199
me make this decision not this decision

2178
01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:23,199
and wouldn't you know i heard this

2179
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:24,800
little nurse screaming

2180
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:28,560
alta hurry hurry she's leaving

2181
01:21:32,709 --> 01:21:31,440
i go running down that corridor i get to

2182
01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:32,719
my mom

2183
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:38,080
was being forced to make that decision

2184
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:41,280
she did it for me but it wasn't exactly

2185
01:21:46,790 --> 01:21:43,520
at that time of my birth

2186
01:21:49,990 --> 01:21:46,800
is you know how that yeah wow

2187
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:50,000
how that happened so

2188
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:52,880
we get back to i'll move the story along

2189
01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:54,320
it's almost like she knew

2190
01:21:59,110 --> 01:21:57,280
though like it was like yeah it was it

2191
01:22:02,390 --> 01:21:59,120
was on your birthday

2192
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:02,400
and that's kind of a a bummer situation

2193
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:03,120
to be in

2194
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:05,280
yeah but it was almost like she was like

2195
01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:06,560
hey

2196
01:22:10,229 --> 01:22:08,320
don't worry about it you know i didn't

2197
01:22:12,149 --> 01:22:10,239
want this in the first place yeah

2198
01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:12,159
happy birthday you don't have to make

2199
01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:13,520
the decision right

2200
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:15,520
right oh i just love you for saying that

2201
01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:17,360
thank you so much for that

2202
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:19,840
yeah it was like releasing releasing out

2203
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:21,120
of the

2204
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:24,000
from the decision right yeah because i

2205
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:24,800
mean i

2206
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:30,080
i can't imagine being put in

2207
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:33,360
that place to be

2208
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:36,719
making that decision like even as even

2209
01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:39,199
as yeah like a a daughter or son like uh

2210
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:40,159
i just cannot

2211
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:43,440
believe i can't ever put myself in that

2212
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:44,560
to understand where

2213
01:22:47,750 --> 01:22:46,800
where where you're coming from but yeah

2214
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:47,760
i know i

2215
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,400
man yeah joe i think you put put it the

2216
01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:52,159
best way possible like

2217
01:22:56,310 --> 01:22:55,840
it's oh joe absolutely such a gift she

2218
01:23:03,430 --> 01:22:56,320
gave

2219
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:03,440
for loving her so much what an amazing

2220
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:06,480
gift and and i don't lose sight of that

2221
01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:08,880
thank you for taking note of that yeah

2222
01:23:14,629 --> 01:23:10,639
definitely

2223
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:14,639
so we so we've got all of her

2224
01:23:20,229 --> 01:23:18,320
inheritance my mom was uh very involved

2225
01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:20,239
in the native arts and she was a drum

2226
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:22,400
maker and textiles and

2227
01:23:25,830 --> 01:23:24,960
paintings this and that and you you know

2228
01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:25,840
what have you

2229
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:28,639
so the first female truck truck uh

2230
01:23:32,629 --> 01:23:29,360
driver in

2231
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:32,639
america yep the first three that's right

2232
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:35,040
18 wheelers only one we understood that

2233
01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:35,760
had a baby

2234
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:38,880
in 1957 that's right and then she just

2235
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:40,639
and then went on and got a degree in law

2236
01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:43,199
bill clinton her first law professor i

2237
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:45,360
mean you know just this amazing woman

2238
01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:47,280
just an amazing woman

2239
01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:50,880
and so she left a lot of amazing things

2240
01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:51,520
behind

2241
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:54,000
physical things that of course i could

2242
01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:55,199
have given a [\h__\h] about

2243
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:57,760
none of that mattered to me it never

2244
01:24:00,790 --> 01:23:59,760
mattered to me but then the respect of

2245
01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:00,800
my mom

2246
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:02,560
and what she was involved in with the

2247
01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:05,120
arts and her work and so on so

2248
01:24:08,950 --> 01:24:07,120
we've got to get all that transferred

2249
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:08,960
from arkansas back to

2250
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:12,000
new orleans the reason for telling you

2251
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:12,800
that

2252
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:22,960
ourselves was my mother's telephone

2253
01:24:26,149 --> 01:24:25,760
because my mom had i understood used

2254
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:26,159
that

2255
01:24:31,189 --> 01:24:29,679
phone to get help when she knew she was

2256
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:31,199
in trouble

2257
01:24:34,870 --> 01:24:33,679
so i couldn't part with the phone

2258
01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:34,880
because i knew it was the last thing

2259
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:35,920
she'd connected

2260
01:24:39,669 --> 01:24:39,199
yeah and so we just couldn't part with

2261
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:39,679
it

2262
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:42,800
so we keep that phone now that phone's

2263
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:44,719
got no physical value obviously it's

2264
01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:45,440
just an old

2265
01:24:49,750 --> 01:24:48,080
rotary i think or a push button i can't

2266
01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:49,760
remember any longer it's not cell

2267
01:24:54,390 --> 01:24:52,639
it's you know landline yeah so we're

2268
01:24:56,830 --> 01:24:54,400
gonna use that phone

2269
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:56,840
that's gonna become our phone in our

2270
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:58,480
apartment

2271
01:25:01,590 --> 01:25:00,080
can't you help me because nobody

2272
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:01,600
believes these stories

2273
01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:04,560
they're so freaking crazy somebody would

2274
01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:05,199
call us

2275
01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:06,960
or we would call people and then all of

2276
01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:08,480
a sudden there would be somebody

2277
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:11,600
else on the line or another conversation

2278
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:12,000
going

2279
01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:15,360
on on the line and it would be like like

2280
01:25:18,390 --> 01:25:17,840
we couldn't describe like portuguese or

2281
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:18,400
something

2282
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:22,320
yeah i mean wow really yeah it was just

2283
01:25:26,550 --> 01:25:22,800
like

2284
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:26,560
a very it was strange you know

2285
01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:37,669
every time yeah every time pretty much

2286
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:40,560
90 of the calls thank you chad would

2287
01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:40,960
have

2288
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:43,440
something else creepy somebody else

2289
01:25:46,149 --> 01:25:44,080
talking

2290
01:25:48,229 --> 01:25:46,159
and that it didn't seem like they could

2291
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:48,239
hear us

2292
01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:51,280
they had their own world going on

2293
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:53,440
we're just trying to use the phone and

2294
01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:55,360
there's no party line

2295
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:59,360
and you know yes so you have this rotary

2296
01:26:02,790 --> 01:26:00,320
phone this old school

2297
01:26:04,470 --> 01:26:02,800
you plug in the accord to the wall and

2298
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:04,480
you've you've moved to this new place

2299
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:04,880
and

2300
01:26:11,189 --> 01:26:08,159
up the phone to

2301
01:26:13,590 --> 01:26:11,199
make a call or i don't know and then

2302
01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:13,600
you yeah i was going to say like back in

2303
01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:15,199
the old days like a party line was

2304
01:26:18,790 --> 01:26:16,960
literally you shared the same line with

2305
01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:18,800
your whole neighborhood

2306
01:26:22,229 --> 01:26:20,800
that's right yeah i've got a pretty good

2307
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:22,239
ear for languages

2308
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:24,159
i don't speak the languages but i get a

2309
01:26:28,390 --> 01:26:25,920
pretty good ear form

2310
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:28,400
and i'm telling you i mean i'm sure

2311
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:29,920
there's a lot of languages out there i

2312
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:31,440
have no clue about

2313
01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:33,920
in all honesty but in all honesty never

2314
01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:36,239
recognized any of these languages

2315
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:38,239
i had no idea what the hell was going on

2316
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:39,520
on this phone

2317
01:26:44,149 --> 01:26:42,239
the phone would ring and there'd be

2318
01:26:46,070 --> 01:26:44,159
nothing there

2319
01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:46,080
the phone would ring and you'd have all

2320
01:26:50,310 --> 01:26:48,400
these different voices

2321
01:26:52,149 --> 01:26:50,320
we'd go to use the phone like chad said

2322
01:26:55,189 --> 01:26:52,159
and this would be going on

2323
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:55,199
now it gets even creepier now

2324
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,880
we're calling the phone company trying

2325
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:58,560
to get help well

2326
01:27:01,910 --> 01:27:00,719
they send dude out to the house and he

2327
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:01,920
goes through the whole

2328
01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:04,800
system and he's making it clear best he

2329
01:27:10,470 --> 01:27:07,040
can tell everything looks just dandy

2330
01:27:13,830 --> 01:27:10,480
he didn't understand it okay

2331
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:13,840
then other

2332
01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:17,040
bizarreness would take place such as

2333
01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:24,149
finally i can't take it anymore i'll

2334
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:25,840
never forget i

2335
01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:29,040
almost verbatim a lady at that phone

2336
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:29,600
company

2337
01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:31,920
saying to me in a very southern new

2338
01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:33,280
orleans voice

2339
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:36,000
well honey do you ever think it might be

2340
01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:42,470
somebody says that who

2341
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:45,120
says that in a phone company who says

2342
01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:46,000
that

2343
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:47,360
it's almost like the priest just got a

2344
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:52,790
she ended up working for the phone

2345
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:55,120
company either that or my

2346
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:58,239
landlord joe upstairs had been following

2347
01:28:02,229 --> 01:27:58,960
me around

2348
01:28:04,870 --> 01:28:02,239
yes right

2349
01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:04,880
so we got a little guy friend that chad

2350
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:05,520
worked

2351
01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:07,920
with in the restaurant bar business his

2352
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:09,280
name was

2353
01:28:15,189 --> 01:28:12,719
robert robert had met my mom before

2354
01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:15,199
she crossed and when before my mom died

2355
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:17,120
somebody made some nasty comment to me

2356
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:19,040
about using the word cross so

2357
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:21,040
i'll catch myself when my mom actually

2358
01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:22,400
died

2359
01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:27,199
become friends when mom had come to

2360
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:27,600
visit

2361
01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:29,840
they were tight friends they were very

2362
01:28:33,110 --> 01:28:31,360
tight

2363
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:33,120
and he was just a little he's a little

2364
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:34,880
clown this little guy was just a little

2365
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:35,920
clown

2366
01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:39,280
just adorable well he wanted that phone

2367
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:41,120
bad because i told chad that phone's

2368
01:28:46,390 --> 01:28:42,960
gonna go it's gotta go

2369
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:46,400
this gotta go and uh

2370
01:28:50,470 --> 01:28:48,400
we just decided you know that phone's

2371
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:50,480
gotta go so rather than just

2372
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:52,719
toss it out end up with some stranger

2373
01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:53,840
god forbid because

2374
01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:56,880
what the hell thing is you know honey do

2375
01:29:02,070 --> 01:28:58,960
you ever think it might be haunted

2376
01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:02,080
it's all i keep remembering so

2377
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:05,199
so robert wants that haunted phone

2378
01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:09,120
he wants it so we we sold him that phone

2379
01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:10,000
for sure he

2380
01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:12,320
offered us some money and we said sold

2381
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:13,199
yeah take

2382
01:29:16,709 --> 01:29:15,760
one and be happy and so on so that was

2383
01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:16,719
the last of

2384
01:29:28,310 --> 01:29:25,430
my birthday in may we're now into june

2385
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:28,320
now if we can we're going to actually

2386
01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:30,239
get to this story that the book has been

2387
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:32,639
actually written about we're right there

2388
01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:34,320
oh yeah so

2389
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:38,480
yeah yeah you know the big build up so

2390
01:29:44,470 --> 01:29:42,159
okay i'm going through you know just

2391
01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:44,480
deep sorrow there's no way else to

2392
01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:46,239
describe it i'm in such a

2393
01:29:50,149 --> 01:29:48,880
one in such a dark morning place i can't

2394
01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:50,159
come out of it

2395
01:29:55,669 --> 01:29:53,120
but i'm a i'm a reader you know i can't

2396
01:29:58,149 --> 01:29:55,679
afford to be in this darkness

2397
01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:58,159
and be a reader you don't work well

2398
01:30:01,350 --> 01:29:59,120
together

2399
01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:01,360
so i don't know how i managed it but for

2400
01:30:04,149 --> 01:30:03,199
somehow or other i managed to keep

2401
01:30:07,350 --> 01:30:04,159
working

2402
01:30:09,669 --> 01:30:07,360
and doing my job but i'm dying

2403
01:30:10,390 --> 01:30:09,679
internally i'm dying i'm just dying i

2404
01:30:13,030 --> 01:30:10,400
just want to be

2405
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:13,040
i just want to die and i'm struggling

2406
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:15,840
because i love chad and i love life

2407
01:30:20,870 --> 01:30:19,199
so i'm changing and i'm falling deep

2408
01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:20,880
into it

2409
01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:23,360
i work with this young woman we call her

2410
01:30:27,030 --> 01:30:25,440
christine or christina in the book we've

2411
01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:27,040
changed her first name she didn't even

2412
01:30:30,790 --> 01:30:27,920
ask us to

2413
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:30,800
we we did so when we had the book

2414
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:31,520
published

2415
01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:36,800
yeah at the time she's 24

2416
01:30:42,629 --> 01:30:40,320
chad's 34 and i'm

2417
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:42,639
how does that work wait a minute chad's

2418
01:30:47,270 --> 01:30:44,560
sorry she's 24.

2419
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:47,280
i just turned 40. chad was 30. so i'm

2420
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:48,880
the old chick of the crew

2421
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:51,360
of the three of us just give you kind of

2422
01:30:55,510 --> 01:30:52,320
numbers

2423
01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:55,520
she happens to be 24 tall slender long

2424
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:56,320
blonde hair

2425
01:31:01,189 --> 01:30:59,360
very attractive and single never been

2426
01:31:04,390 --> 01:31:01,199
married no kids

2427
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:04,400
she'd moved to new orleans kind of she

2428
01:31:08,629 --> 01:31:06,400
she'd been living in florida for a long

2429
01:31:10,870 --> 01:31:08,639
time she was like a beach baby

2430
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:10,880
and me and you know i've just been very

2431
01:31:14,229 --> 01:31:12,560
fortunate in the girls i've known in my

2432
01:31:18,149 --> 01:31:14,239
life being adorable

2433
01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:18,159
very vibrant pretty all those things

2434
01:31:21,669 --> 01:31:20,400
very cool very independent women i seem

2435
01:31:22,629 --> 01:31:21,679
to have always been drawn to and

2436
01:31:26,550 --> 01:31:22,639
attracted to

2437
01:31:29,110 --> 01:31:26,560
yeah so christina

2438
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:29,120
she uh she had met my mother when my mom

2439
01:31:32,550 --> 01:31:30,800
had come to town

2440
01:31:35,669 --> 01:31:32,560
i brought her to the shop everybody knew

2441
01:31:37,990 --> 01:31:35,679
her and christina knew that i was in the

2442
01:31:39,110 --> 01:31:38,000
deepest darkest place with the death of

2443
01:31:42,229 --> 01:31:39,120
my mom

2444
01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:42,239
so one night christina this is i'm going

2445
01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:44,560
to say this is again like

2446
01:31:51,270 --> 01:31:48,000
my mom dies in may on my birthday

2447
01:31:53,270 --> 01:31:51,280
june july august

2448
01:31:56,149 --> 01:31:53,280
we're now probably the beginnings of

2449
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:58,870
weather is still warm but you know

2450
01:32:01,590 --> 01:32:00,880
starting to change your hair but not too

2451
01:32:05,669 --> 01:32:01,600
much

2452
01:32:07,030 --> 01:32:05,679
and she is asked me before and i've

2453
01:32:09,510 --> 01:32:07,040
always said no or

2454
01:32:10,550 --> 01:32:09,520
maybe once twice before did i want to go

2455
01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:10,560
out

2456
01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:13,600
and i said no this particular night i

2457
01:32:17,189 --> 01:32:14,320
agree

2458
01:32:18,709 --> 01:32:17,199
i'm like yeah it's time we had never

2459
01:32:20,390 --> 01:32:18,719
done it before we'd never been in the

2460
01:32:22,149 --> 01:32:20,400
quarter together she'd been to my home

2461
01:32:24,550 --> 01:32:22,159
but we've never been out

2462
01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:24,560
so she asked if we want to go out if i

2463
01:32:28,629 --> 01:32:26,080
want to go out that night and have

2464
01:32:29,750 --> 01:32:28,639
and just go out and be spontaneous maybe

2465
01:32:33,030 --> 01:32:29,760
dinner drinks

2466
01:32:34,629 --> 01:32:33,040
no plans i'm like yeah let's do it

2467
01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:34,639
i said let's call chad because chad

2468
01:32:38,149 --> 01:32:36,239
likes the girls and the girls love

2469
01:32:39,590 --> 01:32:38,159
chad and it's like let's just you know

2470
01:32:43,030 --> 01:32:39,600
we'll call chad

2471
01:32:45,110 --> 01:32:43,040
so our townhouse was only

2472
01:32:47,030 --> 01:32:45,120
a couple blocks away from the shop i

2473
01:32:49,270 --> 01:32:47,040
worked in

2474
01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:49,280
we called chad we're telling him to plan

2475
01:32:51,750 --> 01:32:51,120
yeah he's all about it he's ready for a

2476
01:32:54,390 --> 01:32:51,760
party

2477
01:32:55,270 --> 01:32:54,400
so he gets himself all cuted up and he

2478
01:32:59,430 --> 01:32:55,280
walks

2479
01:33:00,950 --> 01:32:59,440
and i

2480
01:33:03,430 --> 01:33:00,960
she's manager of the shop she's got the

2481
01:33:06,629 --> 01:33:03,440
keys so she locks the shop up

2482
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:06,639
and we step out the door my my

2483
01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:08,400
memory of all of this is it's somewhere

2484
01:33:14,790 --> 01:33:09,840
around

2485
01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:14,800
nine thirty between nine and nine thirty

2486
01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:16,400
the shop closed i guess at nine she's

2487
01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:18,159
manager so she's got duties

2488
01:33:22,550 --> 01:33:19,679
by the time she gets it all down we step

2489
01:33:25,750 --> 01:33:22,560
outside the doors she's locking the door

2490
01:33:27,990 --> 01:33:25,760
it's around between 9 9 30.

2491
01:33:29,590 --> 01:33:28,000
i remember instantly which is really

2492
01:33:32,790 --> 01:33:29,600
weird

2493
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:32,800
saying out loud the energy feels

2494
01:33:38,149 --> 01:33:36,239
weird it feels weird now that i didn't

2495
01:33:39,750 --> 01:33:38,159
go around talking like that

2496
01:33:41,270 --> 01:33:39,760
all the other people that are readers

2497
01:33:41,910 --> 01:33:41,280
and into all this stuff that's how they

2498
01:33:44,149 --> 01:33:41,920
talk

2499
01:33:45,990 --> 01:33:44,159
but that's not how i did but i did that

2500
01:33:48,149 --> 01:33:46,000
night i remember it very clearly

2501
01:33:50,070 --> 01:33:48,159
stepping out making that comment

2502
01:33:51,270 --> 01:33:50,080
i remember both chad and her

2503
01:33:53,110 --> 01:33:51,280
acknowledging that

2504
01:33:55,189 --> 01:33:53,120
that they thought it was it felt weird

2505
01:33:58,470 --> 01:33:55,199
too they don't talk that way either

2506
01:33:59,350 --> 01:33:58,480
but we did we made that comment well now

2507
01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:59,360
we're gonna

2508
01:34:02,870 --> 01:34:00,719
everything is done on foot in the

2509
01:34:04,790 --> 01:34:02,880
quarter you don't drive it's expensive

2510
01:34:06,629 --> 01:34:04,800
we had a car but you know you got to pay

2511
01:34:09,189 --> 01:34:06,639
a fortune to keep it parked

2512
01:34:10,070 --> 01:34:09,199
and the quarter is 13 blocks i think

2513
01:34:11,590 --> 01:34:10,080
square

2514
01:34:13,189 --> 01:34:11,600
so we're just going to walk we're going

2515
01:34:14,950 --> 01:34:13,199
to start at one end of it

2516
01:34:16,470 --> 01:34:14,960
and just work our way across the quarter

2517
01:34:18,629 --> 01:34:16,480
spontaneously

2518
01:34:19,510 --> 01:34:18,639
so we start off we're only a few blocks

2519
01:34:21,110 --> 01:34:19,520
from as

2520
01:34:22,629 --> 01:34:21,120
i call it the famous bourbon street

2521
01:34:24,310 --> 01:34:22,639
we're gonna start there and just work

2522
01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:24,320
our way across

2523
01:34:30,950 --> 01:34:27,520
our first plan is to go to a club

2524
01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:30,960
restaurant uh place that chad worked in

2525
01:34:35,350 --> 01:34:33,040
when we first moved there on bourbon

2526
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:35,360
it's going to be our first beginnings

2527
01:34:37,990 --> 01:34:37,199
i'll try to speed the story up we get

2528
01:34:40,390 --> 01:34:38,000
there

2529
01:34:42,149 --> 01:34:40,400
that's a very weird experience because

2530
01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:42,159
from the moment we hit bourbon street

2531
01:34:45,669 --> 01:34:44,480
i remember looking around saying where

2532
01:34:51,590 --> 01:34:45,679
is everybody

2533
01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:51,600
the french quarter is 24 7. i mean no

2534
01:34:54,390 --> 01:34:52,080
matter

2535
01:34:55,669 --> 01:34:54,400
yeah have you heard the quarter either

2536
01:34:58,870 --> 01:34:55,679
of you

2537
01:35:01,030 --> 01:34:58,880
we we went on our tour our band tour yep

2538
01:35:02,950 --> 01:35:01,040
yep we went through louisiana yep we

2539
01:35:06,149 --> 01:35:02,960
went and hung out

2540
01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:06,159
awesome yeah yeah so you you know it's a

2541
01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:07,199
crazy place

2542
01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:10,400
yeah it's it's always packed with people

2543
01:35:13,750 --> 01:35:13,040
right there's always something going on

2544
01:35:16,550 --> 01:35:13,760
you know even

2545
01:35:18,149 --> 01:35:16,560
even here yeah right which is reason

2546
01:35:20,390 --> 01:35:18,159
enough to not want to drive

2547
01:35:21,270 --> 01:35:20,400
you know a million people everywhere

2548
01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:21,280
yeah

2549
01:35:28,149 --> 01:35:26,320
you know the tourists it's the locals

2550
01:35:29,830 --> 01:35:28,159
right you know when

2551
01:35:31,350 --> 01:35:29,840
i got he's not busy you know it's the

2552
01:35:34,310 --> 01:35:31,360
locals that you know

2553
01:35:37,189 --> 01:35:34,320
but on this night it was crazy it was

2554
01:35:39,510 --> 01:35:37,199
there was nobody there was no people

2555
01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:39,520
there were a few stragglers right there

2556
01:35:44,629 --> 01:35:41,679
were a few looking human beings

2557
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:44,639
but there's no people there's no noise

2558
01:35:48,229 --> 01:35:44,960
like

2559
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:48,239
all the musicians neither one of us can

2560
01:35:52,310 --> 01:35:49,920
account for that

2561
01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:52,320
there's no there's no there's no there's

2562
01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:53,199
no people

2563
01:35:57,030 --> 01:35:55,679
wow and i'm saying now i'm not thinking

2564
01:35:59,109 --> 01:35:57,040
nothing high strangeness

2565
01:36:00,390 --> 01:35:59,119
right i'm not thinking none of that i'm

2566
01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:00,400
just like where the

2567
01:36:05,669 --> 01:36:03,760
f is everybody where is everybody

2568
01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:05,679
because there's musicians everywhere on

2569
01:36:09,189 --> 01:36:07,520
every street corner i mean that's part

2570
01:36:10,629 --> 01:36:09,199
of the appeal is that they're always

2571
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:10,639
there

2572
01:36:16,790 --> 01:36:14,320
at night yeah not that great

2573
01:36:17,590 --> 01:36:16,800
we get over to this bar restaurant that

2574
01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:17,600
i used to work

2575
01:36:21,669 --> 01:36:19,840
at where we know everybody even the

2576
01:36:22,470 --> 01:36:21,679
owner we knew the owner we knew the

2577
01:36:24,550 --> 01:36:22,480
managers

2578
01:36:25,990 --> 01:36:24,560
yeah yeah the bartender was this great

2579
01:36:28,310 --> 01:36:26,000
guy his name was

2580
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:28,320
freak and you know he was just this

2581
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:29,280
philosopher and

2582
01:36:33,109 --> 01:36:30,960
we could just sit and talk with him all

2583
01:36:36,550 --> 01:36:33,119
night long we knew the band

2584
01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:36,560
you know and so so this building

2585
01:36:41,350 --> 01:36:39,199
is three-story if i remember correctly

2586
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:41,360
the top story is the balcony and the

2587
01:36:44,950 --> 01:36:42,960
disco

2588
01:36:45,990 --> 01:36:44,960
the they has a beautiful winding

2589
01:36:48,790 --> 01:36:46,000
staircase wood

2590
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:48,800
staircase all the way up to that disco

2591
01:36:51,750 --> 01:36:50,400
and the bottom ground

2592
01:36:53,430 --> 01:36:51,760
they have what do you call that when you

2593
01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:53,440
come off the street into the bar

2594
01:36:57,189 --> 01:36:55,199
there's a carriage way and then

2595
01:36:59,669 --> 01:36:57,199
carriageway was a bar right on the

2596
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:59,679
street and then you go past that into

2597
01:37:02,229 --> 01:37:00,480
the courtyard

2598
01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:02,239
which was a huge restaurant outdoor

2599
01:37:06,149 --> 01:37:03,760
restaurant

2600
01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:06,159
on this night there's nobody there

2601
01:37:11,189 --> 01:37:07,920
there's no wait staff

2602
01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:11,199
there's no clientele there's no

2603
01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:13,760
there's nobody with the exception of one

2604
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:14,800
human being

2605
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:17,760
we think only because we knew him

2606
01:37:22,470 --> 01:37:18,400
happened to be

2607
01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:22,480
a a black dude who also

2608
01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:25,920
happened to be a mardi gras indian now

2609
01:37:29,669 --> 01:37:28,080
is that familiar term to you mardi gras

2610
01:37:32,390 --> 01:37:29,679
indians

2611
01:37:34,229 --> 01:37:32,400
never heard of it not specifically so

2612
01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:34,239
you just google that one up and you'll

2613
01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:35,280
discover

2614
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:37,760
they're a huge part of louisiana

2615
01:37:42,310 --> 01:37:39,440
particularly new orleans

2616
01:37:43,510 --> 01:37:42,320
they're black folk who wear very

2617
01:37:46,870 --> 01:37:43,520
extravagant

2618
01:37:48,390 --> 01:37:46,880
very oh i've seen that yes

2619
01:37:50,229 --> 01:37:48,400
oh yeah i'm seeing images right now i've

2620
01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:50,239
never literally never seen this before

2621
01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:50,880
but i've see

2622
01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:52,320
i've seen that well the colors it's

2623
01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:54,320
awesome so they are a big

2624
01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:57,360
big deal for the tourism and the world

2625
01:38:02,790 --> 01:37:59,840
of new orleans and louisiana

2626
01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:02,800
we didn't know until that night that

2627
01:38:06,950 --> 01:38:04,960
this dude was a mardi gras indian

2628
01:38:07,990 --> 01:38:06,960
that's bizarre because we've known him

2629
01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:08,000
for years

2630
01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:10,320
he knew my mother was an indian elder

2631
01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:11,360
he'd matter

2632
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:13,360
he knew i was a little mixed indian girl

2633
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:15,119
he knew i had all my regalia

2634
01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:17,280
and up until that night we did not know

2635
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:18,880
this about him

2636
01:38:23,189 --> 01:38:21,520
but on this weird ass night he tells us

2637
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:23,199
the only one that's in this whole

2638
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:24,239
building

2639
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:27,600
he wants to show us his regalia

2640
01:38:32,709 --> 01:38:31,040
what okay now again we're not thinking

2641
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:32,719
nothing paranormal we're just like

2642
01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:36,320
what the what so so it's is it it's

2643
01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:39,520
alta and and chad and cr

2644
01:38:45,990 --> 01:38:42,880
is it kristin the the doesn't matter

2645
01:38:49,830 --> 01:38:46,000
call her anything you like christina

2646
01:38:51,590 --> 01:38:49,840
yeah okay so just the three of you guys

2647
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:51,600
and you guys are on the sorry i'm just

2648
01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:53,679
uh i i tuned out because i was i was

2649
01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:56,320
reading some stuff about

2650
01:38:59,350 --> 01:38:58,880
i just want to make sure uh so you guys

2651
01:39:02,629 --> 01:38:59,360
are

2652
01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:02,639
on on the street and there's like

2653
01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:05,840
oddly no one there and you run into the

2654
01:39:09,270 --> 01:39:08,080
mardi gras indian and now he's like hey

2655
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:09,280
let me show you my

2656
01:39:14,149 --> 01:39:12,719
regalia well we went to this place that

2657
01:39:16,229 --> 01:39:14,159
chad first worked

2658
01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:16,239
years prior when we first moved to new

2659
01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:18,080
orleans he was the manager he was the

2660
01:39:21,990 --> 01:39:19,440
manager of this

2661
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:22,000
whole establishment he's the only one

2662
01:39:25,350 --> 01:39:22,800
that's

2663
01:39:26,870 --> 01:39:25,360
on location that we can see that we're

2664
01:39:30,310 --> 01:39:26,880
aware of that's there

2665
01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:30,320
yeah he says to us well he offered us a

2666
01:39:34,950 --> 01:39:31,920
house drink

2667
01:39:35,590 --> 01:39:34,960
he makes us all a drink he wants to show

2668
01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:35,600
me

2669
01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:40,000
particular is regalia

2670
01:39:43,030 --> 01:39:41,600
now we're shocked because again we

2671
01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:43,040
didn't even know he was a mardi gras

2672
01:39:48,550 --> 01:39:45,280
indian we didn't know any of those

2673
01:39:51,669 --> 01:39:48,560
so we're like oh okay we'll

2674
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:51,679
trot up to the ditch we go up the stairs

2675
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:53,119
to

2676
01:39:56,470 --> 01:39:54,880
he's gonna the disco the lights and

2677
01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:56,480
everything i mean this

2678
01:40:00,229 --> 01:39:59,280
this was one of the major clubs there on

2679
01:40:02,950 --> 01:40:00,239
major

2680
01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:02,960
club so turns on all the lights whatever

2681
01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:04,800
and there's this regalia like under

2682
01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:05,760
light

2683
01:40:09,910 --> 01:40:07,600
and it it feels to me like it was all

2684
01:40:12,550 --> 01:40:09,920
red and i'm like

2685
01:40:14,390 --> 01:40:12,560
where the hell am i and what the hell

2686
01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:14,400
we're sober we haven't even had a drink

2687
01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:15,199
yet

2688
01:40:19,669 --> 01:40:17,920
i remember none of us drank the drink

2689
01:40:21,910 --> 01:40:19,679
because we wanted out

2690
01:40:23,350 --> 01:40:21,920
we're trying to have a party and we're

2691
01:40:25,030 --> 01:40:23,360
just kind of freaking out at this point

2692
01:40:26,390 --> 01:40:25,040
now christina had given a [\h__\h] about the

2693
01:40:29,030 --> 01:40:26,400
regalia and all that

2694
01:40:30,470 --> 01:40:29,040
no disrespect yeah she loves me she's my

2695
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:30,480
indian-ness and so on but

2696
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:31,920
we're just all trying to have a party

2697
01:40:38,629 --> 01:40:34,960
this night yeah definitely

2698
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:38,639
so we make our polite we gotta go thanks

2699
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:41,520
lovely to see you beautiful regalia

2700
01:40:45,830 --> 01:40:43,600
right on right on we gotta go

2701
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:45,840
none of us remember drinking the drink

2702
01:40:50,229 --> 01:40:47,760
and out the door we go

2703
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:50,239
now i'll speed the story up we stop at

2704
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:51,600
another spot

2705
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:54,480
midway of these 13 blocks like right in

2706
01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:55,760
the middle of the quarter

2707
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:57,840
it was a place that christina knew about

2708
01:41:00,870 --> 01:40:59,280
i don't remember ever being there before

2709
01:41:04,149 --> 01:41:00,880
i don't think chad knew it

2710
01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:04,159
we get there well story's the same look

2711
01:41:07,430 --> 01:41:05,840
in the door we actually went in if i

2712
01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:07,440
remember correctly we sat down in a

2713
01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:08,080
booth

2714
01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:09,280
and all that was in there was a

2715
01:41:14,149 --> 01:41:11,679
bartender that was it there's no

2716
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:14,159
people okay we don't even stay around to

2717
01:41:17,350 --> 01:41:15,360
order a drink

2718
01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:17,360
we're going to get this because where

2719
01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:20,000
the hell is the party

2720
01:41:24,790 --> 01:41:22,960
now we're up and out the door again now

2721
01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:24,800
we're getting to the very end of the

2722
01:41:28,310 --> 01:41:26,320
quarter

2723
01:41:30,149 --> 01:41:28,320
we go to a place that chad and i had

2724
01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:30,159
gone to often enough now

2725
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:32,480
we we weren't party hardy years we

2726
01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:34,000
didn't do it all the time

2727
01:41:37,990 --> 01:41:36,239
but when we did do it this was one of

2728
01:41:41,030 --> 01:41:38,000
this was our favorite place

2729
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:41,040
and it's where the locals would

2730
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:44,320
generally navigate to

2731
01:41:47,350 --> 01:41:46,480
and it was uh the bottom half of this

2732
01:41:49,910 --> 01:41:47,360
place was a

2733
01:41:51,510 --> 01:41:49,920
thai restaurant above it was a place

2734
01:41:53,750 --> 01:41:51,520
called the dragon's den

2735
01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:53,760
it's still in effect if i'm not mistaken

2736
01:41:58,070 --> 01:41:55,600
with quarantine it's hard to say

2737
01:41:59,669 --> 01:41:58,080
but it's still called the dragon's den

2738
01:42:01,750 --> 01:41:59,679
it's a small

2739
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:01,760
uh relatively small you got to go up a

2740
01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:03,280
kind of creepy stairs

2741
01:42:07,350 --> 01:42:05,760
to get to it above this thai restaurant

2742
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:07,360
it's got a small balcony

2743
01:42:11,189 --> 01:42:10,080
but when you get up in there it's just

2744
01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:11,199
cool as hell

2745
01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:14,080
it's got it's got the walls the walls

2746
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:15,600
are all painted black

2747
01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:18,960
yeah but they have these mirrors from

2748
01:42:22,149 --> 01:42:20,960
ceiling to floor from ceiling to floor

2749
01:42:25,910 --> 01:42:22,159
and these are probably you know

2750
01:42:28,229 --> 01:42:25,920
10 15 foot ceilings you know huge ones

2751
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:28,239
i mean it looks like i think he looks

2752
01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:30,239
very gothically almost like

2753
01:42:34,229 --> 01:42:32,800
uh opium den kind of because you know

2754
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:34,239
they had the pillows

2755
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:37,360
pillows on the pillows and take you know

2756
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,080
we've never done opium yeah yeah i've

2757
01:42:44,470 --> 01:42:42,000
never been to one of those places but

2758
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:44,480
uh it sure it looks like the ones in the

2759
01:42:47,750 --> 01:42:46,320
movie anyway you know

2760
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:47,760
and we knew the guys that were

2761
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:49,440
oftentimes the

2762
01:42:53,669 --> 01:42:52,159
musicians there you know we've got

2763
01:42:54,870 --> 01:42:53,679
enough where we're comfortable knew the

2764
01:42:56,950 --> 01:42:54,880
bartender right

2765
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:56,960
bartenders that's right so giving you

2766
01:43:00,550 --> 01:42:57,920
that background

2767
01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:00,560
we go up those stairs three of us after

2768
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:02,719
this weird night we've already had

2769
01:43:07,990 --> 01:43:05,520
starting at 9 30. we're an hour into

2770
01:43:11,189 --> 01:43:08,000
this story we still haven't had a drink

2771
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:11,199
no drugs no nothing as we go up the

2772
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:13,440
rickety stairs we get up to the top of

2773
01:43:16,790 --> 01:43:15,040
the stairs and all of a sudden the door

2774
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:16,800
is closed and there's a sign

2775
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:20,080
they want a door coverage

2776
01:43:23,590 --> 01:43:22,719
what what that's never happened before

2777
01:43:26,870 --> 01:43:23,600
the price

2778
01:43:29,830 --> 01:43:26,880
your soul exactly right

2779
01:43:30,470 --> 01:43:29,840
what now we're pissed now we just we

2780
01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:30,480
just

2781
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:32,800
you know we're muttering our pissness

2782
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:34,560
like we've never had to do this before

2783
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:36,880
we ain't starting tonight kind of thing

2784
01:43:46,390 --> 01:43:44,550
three of us pivot on those stairs and

2785
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:46,400
down the stairs we tried just a

2786
01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:48,560
grumbling all the way down

2787
01:43:52,070 --> 01:43:50,800
and we get back out on the street we're

2788
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:52,080
gonna give it one last

2789
01:43:58,390 --> 01:43:55,280
shot now the last shot place is

2790
01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:58,400
just a half a block not even that far

2791
01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:01,040
up the street and that place is called

2792
01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:02,880
checkpoint charlie's

2793
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:05,280
checkpoint charlie is just a big old guy

2794
01:44:10,390 --> 01:44:06,480
just a big old

2795
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:10,400
whole hall dive but that dive is the

2796
01:44:13,510 --> 01:44:11,119
place where

2797
01:44:14,470 --> 01:44:13,520
all the famous when they come in and do

2798
01:44:16,550 --> 01:44:14,480
their gigs

2799
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:16,560
yeah when they want to just play and

2800
01:44:20,629 --> 01:44:17,679
hang and be

2801
01:44:21,669 --> 01:44:20,639
that's where they did it faithful yeah

2802
01:44:26,149 --> 01:44:21,679
that's right

2803
01:44:29,109 --> 01:44:26,159
all faithful always old faithful

2804
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:29,119
on this night now as we cross this

2805
01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:30,080
little street

2806
01:44:35,030 --> 01:44:33,119
to get to it i can already see there's

2807
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:35,040
no people

2808
01:44:41,109 --> 01:44:38,320
also i can see the door is open

2809
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:41,119
which is normal but what's not normal is

2810
01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:43,119
they've got a dormant

2811
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:45,520
this dive had never had a doorman that i

2812
01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:46,639
knew of

2813
01:44:51,990 --> 01:44:49,280
this doorman is a little squirt he's a

2814
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:52,000
little adorable

2815
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:54,320
squirt there's a little guy there's a

2816
01:44:59,109 --> 01:44:56,639
bouncer but there's nobody to bounce

2817
01:45:00,950 --> 01:44:59,119
yeah yeah a bouncer he looks like a

2818
01:45:03,030 --> 01:45:00,960
little nirvana dude yeah

2819
01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:03,040
he looks like a little he looks like a

2820
01:45:07,590 --> 01:45:04,480
little little boy

2821
01:45:09,270 --> 01:45:07,600
little kirk cobain totally and he's

2822
01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:09,280
looking about the same age as our little

2823
01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:10,480
girlfriend

2824
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:13,600
he's single right so i'm like

2825
01:45:17,830 --> 01:45:16,800
well that's convenient he's cute she's

2826
01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:17,840
adorable

2827
01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:20,320
wow and he's friendly he's smiling i

2828
01:45:24,790 --> 01:45:22,480
don't even bother any longer i'm so

2829
01:45:26,310 --> 01:45:24,800
over this night i can't breathe i just

2830
01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:26,320
blow past him

2831
01:45:30,070 --> 01:45:28,400
and i look inside the door and what do

2832
01:45:32,229 --> 01:45:30,080
you suppose there's not a soul

2833
01:45:33,189 --> 01:45:32,239
in there not a soul in there not even a

2834
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:33,199
bartender

2835
01:45:37,669 --> 01:45:35,920
there's nothing in this place at this

2836
01:45:39,830 --> 01:45:37,679
point now i've had it

2837
01:45:41,590 --> 01:45:39,840
i have absolutely had it i turn around

2838
01:45:43,109 --> 01:45:41,600
to chad and under my breath because i

2839
01:45:45,109 --> 01:45:43,119
don't want her to hear this

2840
01:45:47,030 --> 01:45:45,119
i'm like i am so bored and that's the

2841
01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:47,040
worst thing for alta to be

2842
01:45:51,750 --> 01:45:49,840
i'm so chad i don't even want to walk

2843
01:45:53,270 --> 01:45:51,760
the blocks home let's get a cab

2844
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:53,280
that's how bad i just wanted out of

2845
01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:54,960
there wow i wanted to go home

2846
01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:57,040
and i just wanted to die not literally

2847
01:46:01,510 --> 01:45:58,960
but mentally

2848
01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:01,520
i there's a little stoop halfway up the

2849
01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:02,480
block

2850
01:46:07,109 --> 01:46:05,520
i take my arse over to that stoop and i

2851
01:46:10,149 --> 01:46:07,119
sit down on it in such a

2852
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:10,159
rump chad walks over to me we're several

2853
01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:12,159
feet away from her

2854
01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:13,920
looking real friendly with the doorman

2855
01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:16,320
and i'm thinking well all is not lost

2856
01:46:19,350 --> 01:46:17,679
at least she's got a friend for the

2857
01:46:21,669 --> 01:46:19,360
night you know whatever

2858
01:46:23,750 --> 01:46:21,679
right and i'm saying to chad i just want

2859
01:46:25,590 --> 01:46:23,760
to go home i feel like dorothy and oz i

2860
01:46:27,590 --> 01:46:25,600
just want to go home

2861
01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:27,600
and that's the last thing i know that's

2862
01:46:31,030 --> 01:46:29,040
the last thing i know

2863
01:46:32,790 --> 01:46:31,040
we realize it's probably around 11

2864
01:46:33,510 --> 01:46:32,800
o'clock so we're an hour and a half out

2865
01:46:38,149 --> 01:46:33,520
there

2866
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:38,159
was nobody around to drug us because i'd

2867
01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:41,280
accept that over what happened to us

2868
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:43,280
but that did not happen that didn't

2869
01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:45,119
happen

2870
01:46:50,629 --> 01:46:47,840
the next thing i know i'm sitting

2871
01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:50,639
straight up in my living room

2872
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:52,719
i am cross-legged like i am right now

2873
01:46:56,950 --> 01:46:54,000
indian style

2874
01:46:58,629 --> 01:46:56,960
sitting on my day bed in my living room

2875
01:47:00,629 --> 01:46:58,639
i'm rubbing my arms

2876
01:47:02,070 --> 01:47:00,639
i got something in my upper arm that's

2877
01:47:05,590 --> 01:47:02,080
got my attention

2878
01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:05,600
my i didn't wake up i came to i like to

2879
01:47:08,870 --> 01:47:06,400
express

2880
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:08,880
there's a huge difference in waking up

2881
01:47:13,510 --> 01:47:09,920
and coming too

2882
01:47:16,629 --> 01:47:13,520
yeah i'm sitting straight up my eyes

2883
01:47:18,950 --> 01:47:16,639
popped open and daylight is beaming

2884
01:47:22,310 --> 01:47:18,960
through my windows

2885
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:22,320
so now we are entering the

2886
01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:26,159
next chapter of i mean this is like

2887
01:47:32,470 --> 01:47:29,600
the old the the missing time

2888
01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:32,480
precipice i mean it's easy to as you're

2889
01:47:36,310 --> 01:47:33,280
listening to this

2890
01:47:38,229 --> 01:47:36,320
just kind of like think oh la a lot but

2891
01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:38,239
i mean i feel like we should stop for a

2892
01:47:43,990 --> 01:47:40,800
moment and realize what just happened

2893
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:44,000
because uh you're on the stoop

2894
01:47:48,390 --> 01:47:46,560
you're obviously in a state of kind of

2895
01:47:50,149 --> 01:47:48,400
annoyance and you're just doing i mean

2896
01:47:51,430 --> 01:47:50,159
everybody's been there like hey i don't

2897
01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:51,440
really feel like being out tonight this

2898
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:52,719
is weird i'm having i'm not having the

2899
01:47:55,990 --> 01:47:53,920
greatest time like

2900
01:47:57,669 --> 01:47:56,000
hey i'm glad to be here with friends but

2901
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:57,679
i'm ready to go home i've been there so

2902
01:48:00,070 --> 01:47:58,480
many times like

2903
01:48:01,910 --> 01:48:00,080
ready to go home turn on harry potter

2904
01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:01,920
and go to sleep like yeah that's right

2905
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:04,080
and then and then that state of mind and

2906
01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:05,920
then and there's

2907
01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:07,199
every single time i've been in that

2908
01:48:10,790 --> 01:48:09,040
state of mind i wish that i didn't have

2909
01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:10,800
to go through the grueling

2910
01:48:14,229 --> 01:48:12,800
part of like calling calling an uber i

2911
01:48:15,669 --> 01:48:14,239
mean then i know that there maybe wasn't

2912
01:48:16,070 --> 01:48:15,679
uber at this i don't know maybe there

2913
01:48:19,310 --> 01:48:16,080
was

2914
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:19,320
but i don't know but uh like yeah

2915
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:22,480
1997 yeah

2916
01:48:25,990 --> 01:48:24,239
but like just like snap my fingers and

2917
01:48:26,550 --> 01:48:26,000
i'm i'm in my bed like ready to go home

2918
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:26,560
like that's

2919
01:48:30,149 --> 01:48:28,159
the perfect scenario but what happened

2920
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:30,159
to you is

2921
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:33,360
you're i mean this is this is

2922
01:48:36,790 --> 01:48:35,280
not just you right this is this is chat

2923
01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:36,800
as well right i mean i i don't want to

2924
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:38,639
get ahead of myself but

2925
01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:41,840
yeah and christine so so this is sorry

2926
01:48:46,390 --> 01:48:43,840
i'll i'll i'll stop talking but like

2927
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:46,400
i just want the listeners to like hey

2928
01:48:51,750 --> 01:48:48,000
hey yeah listen to this [\h__\h]

2929
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:51,760
like this is a big deal here we go yeah

2930
01:48:55,109 --> 01:48:53,760
it was a big deal it's a big deal

2931
01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:55,119
because one minute we're on that street

2932
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:57,440
corner at 11 o'clock at night

2933
01:49:02,070 --> 01:49:00,480
and the next minute i am

2934
01:49:03,590 --> 01:49:02,080
sitting straight up in my living room

2935
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:03,600
it's the next day it's somewhere between

2936
01:49:08,070 --> 01:49:05,040
eight and nine in the morning

2937
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:08,080
so i have from eleven to eight nine gone

2938
01:49:11,750 --> 01:49:10,400
that's gone wow now i'm the only one let

2939
01:49:13,109 --> 01:49:11,760
me preface this

2940
01:49:15,750 --> 01:49:13,119
before we go any further i'm the only

2941
01:49:19,030 --> 01:49:15,760
one out of the three of us that appears

2942
01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:19,040
to have memory of the in-between

2943
01:49:22,229 --> 01:49:20,639
i have no memory of coming off the

2944
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:22,239
street and i have no memory of being

2945
01:49:26,470 --> 01:49:23,360
returned home

2946
01:49:29,109 --> 01:49:26,480
but i have a very distinct and it's

2947
01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:29,119
always unless something makes me amnesia

2948
01:49:34,229 --> 01:49:30,639
it is now part of who i

2949
01:49:37,910 --> 01:49:34,239
am memory of in between

2950
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:37,920
so my eyes pop open as i said before i

2951
01:49:42,070 --> 01:49:38,639
didn't wake up

2952
01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:42,080
i came to i'm rubbing my arms

2953
01:49:48,149 --> 01:49:45,119
i'm losing my mind and i'm seeing

2954
01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:48,159
daylight coming through because i i come

2955
01:49:52,870 --> 01:49:49,840
too with memory

2956
01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:52,880
so i'm still in that memory as i'm also

2957
01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:53,760
taking in

2958
01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:56,800
wait a minute i'm home right

2959
01:50:03,669 --> 01:50:00,639
it's all happening at the same time

2960
01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:03,679
now the next thing that comes to me is

2961
01:50:07,830 --> 01:50:05,760
what the [\h__\h] is in my arm and i

2962
01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:07,840
literally said that out loud

2963
01:50:14,390 --> 01:50:11,119
and where is chad

2964
01:50:20,550 --> 01:50:14,400
where's christina they're not there

2965
01:50:25,990 --> 01:50:24,149
yeah so you know a whole lot to all of

2966
01:50:26,950 --> 01:50:26,000
this there's just so much there's just

2967
01:50:30,229 --> 01:50:26,960
so much

2968
01:50:31,990 --> 01:50:30,239
and i might add i'm sorry that we've not

2969
01:50:33,990 --> 01:50:32,000
had the opportunity to share with you

2970
01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:34,000
our very beginning stories that we've

2971
01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:35,199
left out

2972
01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:38,400
due to time and so on because what what

2973
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:39,840
i say to you when i come

2974
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:43,440
to and realize chad and and christina

2975
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:44,960
are missing

2976
01:50:48,629 --> 01:50:47,119
that is so emphasized if you knew the

2977
01:50:50,310 --> 01:50:48,639
other portion of our story that we

2978
01:50:50,870 --> 01:50:50,320
haven't had an opportunity to share with

2979
01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:50,880
you

2980
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:53,920
yeah it's just i would not wish this on

2981
01:50:59,910 --> 01:50:57,520
nobody not nobody of what

2982
01:51:01,589 --> 01:50:59,920
has happened to us in the order that it

2983
01:51:03,910 --> 01:51:01,599
has happened to us

2984
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:03,920
in regards to the terror that's

2985
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:05,440
associated with what

2986
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:09,040
we've experienced so

2987
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:10,800
so i'm not sure where you want to go

2988
01:51:14,709 --> 01:51:12,719
with the rest of all of this because

2989
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:14,719
there's so much

2990
01:51:21,189 --> 01:51:17,760
it's christina's experience yeah mine

2991
01:51:23,189 --> 01:51:21,199
goes on and on and on so so to hear from

2992
01:51:25,910 --> 01:51:23,199
from chad from his

2993
01:51:26,470 --> 01:51:25,920
yeah his experience i'm assuming that uh

2994
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:26,480
chris

2995
01:51:33,270 --> 01:51:32,000
third party that y'all spoke of at the

2996
01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:33,280
beginning

2997
01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:35,440
right she was my manager my store

2998
01:51:39,430 --> 01:51:37,119
manager

2999
01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:39,440
yeah yeah and i know y'all had said that

3000
01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:41,679
there was like three people

3001
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:44,080
um right you know but there was one

3002
01:51:47,189 --> 01:51:44,800
person that

3003
01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:47,199
wasn't interested in really speaking so

3004
01:51:52,229 --> 01:51:49,760
i'm assuming that's who this was right

3005
01:51:54,950 --> 01:51:52,239
right but let me also mention christina

3006
01:51:58,149 --> 01:51:54,960
i i had her put it in writing

3007
01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:58,159
yeah her experience several years ago

3008
01:52:01,910 --> 01:52:00,000
she's given us permission to speak on

3009
01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:01,920
her behalf she never even asked us to

3010
01:52:06,149 --> 01:52:03,520
change her name

3011
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:06,159
in the book that was done by publisher

3012
01:52:10,310 --> 01:52:06,880
and

3013
01:52:12,709 --> 01:52:10,320
never requested that

3014
01:52:13,830 --> 01:52:12,719
to this day we are still connected we're

3015
01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:13,840
still connected

3016
01:52:18,070 --> 01:52:16,480
wow she's long distance from us but we

3017
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:18,080
are still connected

3018
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:21,679
and so we speak as honestly because

3019
01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:23,920
she's always understood that i would

3020
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:24,880
represent

3021
01:52:28,870 --> 01:52:27,520
to the best of my ability and chad as

3022
01:52:31,270 --> 01:52:28,880
well

3023
01:52:33,430 --> 01:52:31,280
her experience and what she relayed to

3024
01:52:36,070 --> 01:52:33,440
me have happened what happened to her

3025
01:52:38,149 --> 01:52:36,080
she just has been very smart and very

3026
01:52:39,350 --> 01:52:38,159
wise she's a very different being than

3027
01:52:41,510 --> 01:52:39,360
chad mountain

3028
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:41,520
yeah she went on let me just mention

3029
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:43,360
this she went on from having that

3030
01:52:47,189 --> 01:52:44,080
experience

3031
01:52:49,510 --> 01:52:47,199
with us to get a degree in environmental

3032
01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:49,520
science

3033
01:52:54,950 --> 01:52:52,400
not mistaken she's got her master's now

3034
01:52:56,229 --> 01:52:54,960
she's gone on she's had a baby who's now

3035
01:52:59,270 --> 01:52:56,239
graduated

3036
01:53:00,550 --> 01:52:59,280
from college that she's you know a son i

3037
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:00,560
mean it's all just

3038
01:53:06,790 --> 01:53:03,840
mind-blowing her life is very

3039
01:53:08,709 --> 01:53:06,800
different she is she's living the dream

3040
01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:08,719
i guess in terms of what's considered

3041
01:53:13,270 --> 01:53:10,239
the american dream

3042
01:53:15,990 --> 01:53:13,280
yeah hell yeah very wise

3043
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:16,000
has stayed anonymous because again this

3044
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:17,920
is not something you can be public about

3045
01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:20,719
ever i think expect to have a quality of

3046
01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:22,400
life by most people because of the way

3047
01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:23,679
we're treated

3048
01:53:27,030 --> 01:53:25,760
over these the difference is is that

3049
01:53:27,910 --> 01:53:27,040
chad and i were never going to have

3050
01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:27,920
children

3051
01:53:31,030 --> 01:53:29,920
we never had to worry about embarrassing

3052
01:53:33,750 --> 01:53:31,040
anybody

3053
01:53:34,229 --> 01:53:33,760
right and you know the sh the shame of

3054
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:34,239
it all

3055
01:53:40,149 --> 01:53:38,080
which is not the way we see it at all uh

3056
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:40,159
good god if that's a virgin mary type of

3057
01:53:45,750 --> 01:53:41,760
being that says you've got to get

3058
01:53:49,350 --> 01:53:45,760
stable i i i've been told by the best

3059
01:53:51,189 --> 01:53:49,360
yeah definitely right so well i'll just

3060
01:53:53,030 --> 01:53:51,199
interject and just say like it's a

3061
01:53:57,189 --> 01:53:53,040
choice that you would be making

3062
01:53:59,189 --> 01:53:57,199
for someone else's life that uh

3063
01:54:00,629 --> 01:53:59,199
it's not something that everybody would

3064
01:54:03,109 --> 01:54:00,639
want you know it's that

3065
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:03,119
it's when someone googles a name and you

3066
01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:04,800
know it sticks in our day and age

3067
01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:08,320
right so i mean i i'm not saying like

3068
01:54:12,149 --> 01:54:10,719
man if this happens to you don't have

3069
01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:12,159
kids i'm just saying like that's

3070
01:54:16,149 --> 01:54:12,880
something

3071
01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:16,159
think about that's the burden that's

3072
01:54:19,990 --> 01:54:17,920
part of the burden right like

3073
01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:20,000
it's i'm not saying that there's an

3074
01:54:22,950 --> 01:54:22,159
ultimatum here or there but it's just

3075
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:22,960
something that's

3076
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:25,199
just a reality hopefully hopefully with

3077
01:54:27,430 --> 01:54:26,159
the work we're doing

3078
01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:27,440
in this conversation that we're having

3079
01:54:31,189 --> 01:54:29,360
the more people that hear the things you

3080
01:54:34,550 --> 01:54:31,199
guys are saying and the more we

3081
01:54:37,030 --> 01:54:34,560
normalize that this stuff happens

3082
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:37,040
the more you know the the less that it's

3083
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:39,280
going to be such a

3084
01:54:44,310 --> 01:54:42,960
a faux pas or um taboo yeah taboo thank

3085
01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:44,320
you

3086
01:54:48,790 --> 01:54:46,560
we absolutely live in words that's why i

3087
01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:48,800
can't compliment the both of you

3088
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:51,440
you know any higher than what without

3089
01:54:54,790 --> 01:54:52,480
sounding phony

3090
01:54:55,830 --> 01:54:54,800
i'm so grateful to both of you you're

3091
01:54:58,390 --> 01:54:55,840
adorable

3092
01:54:59,510 --> 01:54:58,400
you're funny you're insightful you've

3093
01:55:03,510 --> 01:54:59,520
given us

3094
01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:03,520
you know to be open

3095
01:55:07,750 --> 01:55:05,920
that's all we've ever asked for is we

3096
01:55:08,229 --> 01:55:07,760
love questions nobody ever questions us

3097
01:55:10,629 --> 01:55:08,239
because

3098
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:10,639
the story is so shocking i think we

3099
01:55:15,109 --> 01:55:11,920
leave people

3100
01:55:17,109 --> 01:55:15,119
you know sort of just like like blasted

3101
01:55:18,310 --> 01:55:17,119
not intentionally yeah just trying to

3102
01:55:21,189 --> 01:55:18,320
get it said

3103
01:55:22,310 --> 01:55:21,199
yeah and so anyhow just extremely

3104
01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:22,320
grateful to both of you

3105
01:55:26,629 --> 01:55:24,639
oh as this has got to get normalized in

3106
01:55:28,310 --> 01:55:26,639
order for this to have

3107
01:55:29,669 --> 01:55:28,320
the ability to be able to have these

3108
01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:29,679
conversations

3109
01:55:33,589 --> 01:55:31,280
i'll share with you all because i have

3110
01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:33,599
no idea how fast time goes it goes way

3111
01:55:38,470 --> 01:55:35,760
too fast and trying to share

3112
01:55:40,070 --> 01:55:38,480
if you get a chance before you tell us

3113
01:55:42,390 --> 01:55:40,080
that time is up

3114
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:42,400
we have a friend here in this small town

3115
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:44,239
that we've moved back to

3116
01:55:49,270 --> 01:55:47,679
we're in alabama now and we have a

3117
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:49,280
friend

3118
01:55:52,310 --> 01:55:51,520
who we've had in our life for many years

3119
01:55:55,109 --> 01:55:52,320
a guy

3120
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,119
who happens to be 38 years old right now

3121
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:57,520
who lives in this small town with us

3122
01:56:00,629 --> 01:55:59,520
he had an experience when he was 18

3123
01:56:03,990 --> 01:56:00,639
years old eight

3124
01:56:07,189 --> 01:56:04,000
30 years ago in 1989 in this small town

3125
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:07,199
that is effing mind-blowing ufo

3126
01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:10,239
mind-blowing i had him put it in writing

3127
01:56:14,229 --> 01:56:13,520
he willfully and and gratefully did it

3128
01:56:17,189 --> 01:56:14,239
for me

3129
01:56:18,870 --> 01:56:17,199
and chad and sent it to us today that we

3130
01:56:20,629 --> 01:56:18,880
might want to share with you if you get

3131
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:20,639
it if you give us an opportunity oh that

3132
01:56:23,669 --> 01:56:21,360
would be great

3133
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:23,679
absolutely because again he's been very

3134
01:56:26,470 --> 01:56:24,480
wise

3135
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:26,480
this isn't something you know many

3136
01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:28,320
people are comfortable to be public

3137
01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:29,599
about because of the

3138
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:31,679
abuse that so many go through of being

3139
01:56:36,070 --> 01:56:33,520
crazy or treated that way

3140
01:56:37,990 --> 01:56:36,080
yeah so yeah you know it's happening

3141
01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:38,000
everywhere to everybody

3142
01:56:43,990 --> 01:56:41,040
yeah absolutely yeah we'd love to hear

3143
01:56:45,430 --> 01:56:44,000
uh his story absolutely it's still short

3144
01:56:46,229 --> 01:56:45,440
it's real short and he's done it

3145
01:56:48,149 --> 01:56:46,239
beautifully

3146
01:56:49,669 --> 01:56:48,159
yeah and we'll share that with you again

3147
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:49,679
if we have opportunity

3148
01:56:53,589 --> 01:56:52,639
yeah well let's do that at the end of

3149
01:56:55,750 --> 01:56:53,599
this session

3150
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:55,760
yeah uh i would definitely like to hear

3151
01:56:59,750 --> 01:56:57,599
that for sure

3152
01:57:00,790 --> 01:56:59,760
what i think i want to get into really

3153
01:57:04,390 --> 01:57:00,800
quick is

3154
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:04,400
is so we had this missing time event

3155
01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:06,880
uh i would kind of like to hear chad's

3156
01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:07,840
perspective

3157
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:11,920
on this event as well and then

3158
01:57:17,589 --> 01:57:15,890
round that into you know they were gone

3159
01:57:20,229 --> 01:57:17,599
[Music]

3160
01:57:22,229 --> 01:57:20,239
where did they go she's given us

3161
01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:22,239
permission to share hers hers has got to

3162
01:57:28,550 --> 01:57:23,599
deal with

3163
01:57:31,270 --> 01:57:28,560
wolfie boy absolutely werewolves

3164
01:57:32,070 --> 01:57:31,280
sweet so let's do and uh in in my

3165
01:57:35,589 --> 01:57:32,080
experience

3166
01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:35,599
again just like alta explained you know

3167
01:57:39,830 --> 01:57:38,639
leaving there at 9 30 last thing i

3168
01:57:43,270 --> 01:57:39,840
remember

3169
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:43,280
was around 11. sitting on

3170
01:57:50,709 --> 01:57:46,480
sitting on that or

3171
01:57:56,709 --> 01:57:54,629
and then my next memory is i wake up

3172
01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:56,719
probably around nine ish the next

3173
01:57:58,950 --> 01:57:58,639
morning like an hour after i came to

3174
01:58:02,149 --> 01:57:58,960
maybe

3175
01:58:03,990 --> 01:58:02,159
yeah and there's you know i

3176
01:58:05,270 --> 01:58:04,000
i don't feel you know there's no

3177
01:58:07,830 --> 01:58:05,280
hangover there's no

3178
01:58:08,310 --> 01:58:07,840
drug hangover so i'm no i haven't had

3179
01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:08,320
any

3180
01:58:18,229 --> 01:58:15,040
didn't nothing happened

3181
01:58:20,470 --> 01:58:18,239
but i did not know how i got home

3182
01:58:21,510 --> 01:58:20,480
he has no memory there's no memory so

3183
01:58:24,950 --> 01:58:21,520
you are you

3184
01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:24,960
in in the home that alta is also in

3185
01:58:31,510 --> 01:58:28,320
or were you okay right

3186
01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:31,520
right i get uh i start walking towards

3187
01:58:35,189 --> 01:58:32,800
alta alta's

3188
01:58:36,310 --> 01:58:35,199
coming running coming out coming out of

3189
01:58:38,310 --> 01:58:36,320
the bathroom

3190
01:58:39,910 --> 01:58:38,320
and we're just kind of like running

3191
01:58:43,189 --> 01:58:39,920
towards each other or you know

3192
01:58:46,149 --> 01:58:43,199
moving towards each other and i'm like

3193
01:58:48,070 --> 01:58:46,159
how the hell did we get home last night

3194
01:58:49,109 --> 01:58:48,080
and i'm looking for him to tell me what

3195
01:58:51,990 --> 01:58:49,119
happened to us

3196
01:58:53,750 --> 01:58:52,000
and she's like i was hoping well i'm not

3197
01:58:55,669 --> 01:58:53,760
calling like he sounded at all i'm

3198
01:58:59,430 --> 01:58:55,679
losing my mind

3199
01:59:02,229 --> 01:58:59,440
so damn yeah i i just

3200
01:59:02,950 --> 01:59:02,239
i'm just relating and uh i've only

3201
01:59:05,830 --> 01:59:02,960
blacked out

3202
01:59:06,709 --> 01:59:05,840
once in my well i browned out a couple

3203
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:06,719
of times but

3204
01:59:12,149 --> 01:59:10,080
uh i luckily luckily i was with my now

3205
01:59:13,510 --> 01:59:12,159
wife uh we were dating at the time but i

3206
01:59:16,070 --> 01:59:13,520
i just

3207
01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:16,080
yeah i think yeah thank god uh and i

3208
01:59:20,629 --> 01:59:16,960
remember like

3209
01:59:22,149 --> 01:59:20,639
just the the sheer uh moment of bliss

3210
01:59:25,350 --> 01:59:22,159
knowing that someone knew

3211
01:59:25,750 --> 01:59:25,360
what i did because not knowing is the

3212
01:59:28,470 --> 01:59:25,760
most

3213
01:59:30,149 --> 01:59:28,480
frightening right feeling right so i

3214
01:59:33,030 --> 01:59:30,159
can't imagine what you went through

3215
01:59:34,390 --> 01:59:33,040
knowing that you didn't have any alcohol

3216
01:59:40,870 --> 01:59:34,400
right

3217
01:59:42,790 --> 01:59:40,880
reasons there was no reason to just

3218
01:59:44,790 --> 01:59:42,800
and as i'm running towards chad coming

3219
01:59:47,350 --> 01:59:44,800
out of the bathroom trying to understand

3220
01:59:51,350 --> 01:59:47,360
what the hell was going on with my arm

3221
01:59:54,070 --> 01:59:51,360
i'm waiting for him visually

3222
01:59:55,990 --> 01:59:54,080
just looking at his face to just know

3223
01:59:57,350 --> 01:59:56,000
that that confidence is there that he

3224
01:59:59,270 --> 01:59:57,360
can explain to me

3225
02:00:00,709 --> 01:59:59,280
and as i'm moving towards him i can see

3226
02:00:02,790 --> 02:00:00,719
he's lost

3227
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:02,800
that's not something i want to see and

3228
02:00:05,910 --> 02:00:04,960
we're both lost and i'm like screaming

3229
02:00:08,790 --> 02:00:05,920
at him look at my

3230
02:00:10,390 --> 02:00:08,800
arm what's in my arm and where's

3231
02:00:12,629 --> 02:00:10,400
christina

3232
02:00:14,310 --> 02:00:12,639
because there's more to that part when i

3233
02:00:17,350 --> 02:00:14,320
came to

3234
02:00:19,430 --> 02:00:17,360
i i don't see either of them i s but i

3235
02:00:20,470 --> 02:00:19,440
got visual into my bedroom from where

3236
02:00:24,310 --> 02:00:20,480
i'm sitting

3237
02:00:27,030 --> 02:00:24,320
and i see a big lump in my bed

3238
02:00:29,109 --> 02:00:27,040
and and the lump is covered in a blankie

3239
02:00:30,950 --> 02:00:29,119
and i've i've said before i'm

3240
02:00:32,390 --> 02:00:30,960
praying to the heavens that that lump

3241
02:00:34,709 --> 02:00:32,400
belongs to me

3242
02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:34,719
and as i've often said before it'd be

3243
02:00:39,189 --> 02:00:36,880
really truly the one time that

3244
02:00:40,310 --> 02:00:39,199
it'd be acceptable to have two lumps in

3245
02:00:42,709 --> 02:00:40,320
my bed

3246
02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:42,719
but i'm only counting one and i don't

3247
02:00:45,910 --> 02:00:44,080
even know who the lump is

3248
02:00:47,830 --> 02:00:45,920
because i can't see a head i can't see a

3249
02:00:50,709 --> 02:00:47,840
face and i'm going through

3250
02:00:52,550 --> 02:00:50,719
absolute insanity so by the time i come

3251
02:00:54,149 --> 02:00:52,560
out of the bathroom

3252
02:00:56,149 --> 02:00:54,159
we'll get back to chad here he's got a

3253
02:00:57,990 --> 02:00:56,159
great story but just to lead into that

3254
02:00:59,750 --> 02:00:58,000
as i'm moving towards him

3255
02:01:01,589 --> 02:00:59,760
he's already up at this point he's

3256
02:01:03,910 --> 02:01:01,599
moving towards me and he's waiting for

3257
02:01:05,910 --> 02:01:03,920
me to explain to him something

3258
02:01:07,910 --> 02:01:05,920
so now we understand very quickly we

3259
02:01:09,109 --> 02:01:07,920
can't explain and where's christina

3260
02:01:11,430 --> 02:01:09,119
right take note of that

3261
02:01:12,390 --> 02:01:11,440
she's missing she's not there she's not

3262
02:01:16,149 --> 02:01:12,400
alum

3263
02:01:18,870 --> 02:01:16,159
she's not there she's not there

3264
02:01:20,629 --> 02:01:18,880
and and i'm showing him my arm and chad

3265
02:01:21,189 --> 02:01:20,639
tell him what you saw she goes because i

3266
02:01:23,430 --> 02:01:21,199
didn't there's

3267
02:01:24,470 --> 02:01:23,440
something in my arm and when i looked

3268
02:01:27,830 --> 02:01:24,480
down

3269
02:01:28,550 --> 02:01:27,840
there was these handprints around both

3270
02:01:31,270 --> 02:01:28,560
arms

3271
02:01:32,390 --> 02:01:31,280
kind of around the muscle you know

3272
02:01:36,229 --> 02:01:32,400
between the

3273
02:01:38,709 --> 02:01:36,239
elbow and shoulder they were very very

3274
02:01:39,430 --> 02:01:38,719
long they went wrapped all the way

3275
02:01:42,790 --> 02:01:39,440
around

3276
02:01:45,109 --> 02:01:42,800
her arm wow and

3277
02:01:46,149 --> 02:01:45,119
there was only four prints there's only

3278
02:01:48,950 --> 02:01:46,159
four digits

3279
02:01:49,990 --> 02:01:48,960
you know like a thumb and three fingers

3280
02:01:53,270 --> 02:01:50,000
dude

3281
02:01:55,270 --> 02:01:53,280
yeah it was as if somebody was either

3282
02:01:58,470 --> 02:01:55,280
holding her from behind

3283
02:02:01,830 --> 02:01:58,480
or there was like uh something

3284
02:02:05,430 --> 02:02:01,840
you know maybe two somethings you know

3285
02:02:08,070 --> 02:02:05,440
on each side you know of her

3286
02:02:09,510 --> 02:02:08,080
now the bruises did not last long maybe

3287
02:02:12,229 --> 02:02:09,520
you know 24 hours

3288
02:02:13,510 --> 02:02:12,239
no pain no pain no yeah she said there

3289
02:02:15,510 --> 02:02:13,520
was no pain no

3290
02:02:16,550 --> 02:02:15,520
kind of aggravation or anything like

3291
02:02:18,229 --> 02:02:16,560
that

3292
02:02:20,070 --> 02:02:18,239
strong enough for him to see it yeah

3293
02:02:21,589 --> 02:02:20,080
they didn't last long

3294
02:02:23,270 --> 02:02:21,599
uh of course again we didn't take

3295
02:02:23,910 --> 02:02:23,280
pictures because you know it was just

3296
02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:23,920
those picture

3297
02:02:27,350 --> 02:02:25,440
stories are so interesting because

3298
02:02:29,109 --> 02:02:27,360
that's the way everybody thinks but

3299
02:02:30,550 --> 02:02:29,119
i'll just say this to anybody you're

3300
02:02:31,830 --> 02:02:30,560
going through the insanity we're going

3301
02:02:32,390 --> 02:02:31,840
through i guarantee you we ain't

3302
02:02:35,510 --> 02:02:32,400
thinking

3303
02:02:38,310 --> 02:02:35,520
19. when was this 97

3304
02:02:40,310 --> 02:02:38,320
where's the camera where's the all we

3305
02:02:42,950 --> 02:02:40,320
can say is where's christina

3306
02:02:44,149 --> 02:02:42,960
where's christina she's out is like call

3307
02:02:45,669 --> 02:02:44,159
christina and i'm like

3308
02:02:47,350 --> 02:02:45,679
i'm not calling christy christina you

3309
02:02:49,189 --> 02:02:47,360
call christina she goes huh

3310
02:02:51,270 --> 02:02:49,199
i'm not calling christina you call

3311
02:02:54,229 --> 02:02:51,280
christina right and again

3312
02:02:55,750 --> 02:02:54,239
a lot more terror in the voice than the

3313
02:02:58,470 --> 02:02:55,760
calmness that chad is saying

3314
02:02:59,350 --> 02:02:58,480
right we are in a very controlled

3315
02:03:05,589 --> 02:02:59,360
hysteria

3316
02:03:06,629 --> 02:03:05,599
but we didn't talk to her out to talk to

3317
02:03:08,709 --> 02:03:06,639
her

3318
02:03:09,750 --> 02:03:08,719
so i happened to be off work for two

3319
02:03:13,109 --> 02:03:09,760
days

3320
02:03:14,790 --> 02:03:13,119
conveniently having this experience so

3321
02:03:16,709 --> 02:03:14,800
for two days chad and i never

3322
02:03:18,629 --> 02:03:16,719
surfaced we never came out of our

3323
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:18,639
apartment our townhouse

3324
02:03:25,750 --> 02:03:22,080
we kept everything bolted shut locked

3325
02:03:26,709 --> 02:03:25,760
covered we were i can't again i don't

3326
02:03:28,790 --> 02:03:26,719
know how to describe

3327
02:03:29,830 --> 02:03:28,800
these kinds of emotions we're mortified

3328
02:03:33,189 --> 02:03:29,840
we're terrified

3329
02:03:33,910 --> 02:03:33,199
yeah we're scared yeah the amount of

3330
02:03:35,430 --> 02:03:33,920
parents

3331
02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:35,440
[Music]

3332
02:03:39,189 --> 02:03:38,159
right we're way beyond all of that way

3333
02:03:51,510 --> 02:03:39,199
beyond that

3334
02:03:55,350 --> 02:03:53,109
yeah it's just so just to speed this

3335
02:03:58,550 --> 02:03:55,360
along it two days later

3336
02:04:00,790 --> 02:03:58,560
i gotta go to work now

3337
02:04:02,870 --> 02:04:00,800
i gotta go to work i'm two days in

3338
02:04:06,229 --> 02:04:02,880
darkness hiding

3339
02:04:10,149 --> 02:04:06,239
waiting for christina to call us

3340
02:04:12,470 --> 02:04:10,159
show up something she ain't

3341
02:04:13,510 --> 02:04:12,480
now i gotta go to work and i just have

3342
02:04:16,470 --> 02:04:13,520
no idea

3343
02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:16,480
what i'm facing i walk in my shop who's

3344
02:04:20,310 --> 02:04:17,119
there

3345
02:04:23,750 --> 02:04:20,320
to greet me christina what she's

3346
02:04:27,109 --> 02:04:23,760
right there yeah she's right there

3347
02:04:28,629 --> 02:04:27,119
she seems fine she makes it clear to me

3348
02:04:29,430 --> 02:04:28,639
and this is what helped me understand

3349
02:04:32,390 --> 02:04:29,440
the difference in

3350
02:04:33,510 --> 02:04:32,400
age she's 24 at the time i just turned

3351
02:04:36,229 --> 02:04:33,520
40.

3352
02:04:37,270 --> 02:04:36,239
she's handling this she made it very

3353
02:04:40,390 --> 02:04:37,280
clear to me

3354
02:04:43,510 --> 02:04:40,400
she knows something happened to us

3355
02:04:46,550 --> 02:04:43,520
she knows it she knows she's got

3356
02:04:48,950 --> 02:04:46,560
lots of missing time she knows it

3357
02:04:49,669 --> 02:04:48,960
but she also made it clear to me she's

3358
02:04:53,109 --> 02:04:49,679
just gonna

3359
02:04:56,470 --> 02:04:53,119
she's processing she's just dealing

3360
02:04:59,510 --> 02:04:56,480
what what yeah that's

3361
02:05:02,709 --> 02:04:59,520
in youth and whatever

3362
02:05:04,550 --> 02:05:02,719
because i'm sinking inside and i'm so

3363
02:05:07,589 --> 02:05:04,560
happy i can't hardly breathe

3364
02:05:12,950 --> 02:05:07,599
she's all right she's all right

3365
02:05:14,790 --> 02:05:12,960
so as we move along in this story

3366
02:05:17,510 --> 02:05:14,800
just to get that part of the story

3367
02:05:20,470 --> 02:05:17,520
filled in for you all

3368
02:05:22,229 --> 02:05:20,480
several years later we get regression

3369
02:05:24,149 --> 02:05:22,239
done for chad

3370
02:05:25,510 --> 02:05:24,159
now i've tried several times to get

3371
02:05:27,910 --> 02:05:25,520
regressed

3372
02:05:29,109 --> 02:05:27,920
has never happened as i told you

3373
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:29,119
bledsoe's

3374
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:31,199
therapist came to me first before he met

3375
02:05:35,189 --> 02:05:32,480
bledsoe yeah

3376
02:05:37,830 --> 02:05:35,199
came to my home that was a disaster lots

3377
02:05:41,189 --> 02:05:37,840
to the craziness of what i've tried to

3378
02:05:44,709 --> 02:05:41,199
have done to get help it was how was it

3379
02:05:48,790 --> 02:05:47,830
well it just didn't yeah oh it's creepy

3380
02:05:51,669 --> 02:05:48,800
it's creepy

3381
02:05:52,550 --> 02:05:51,679
oh just creepy i bet it is i didn't mean

3382
02:05:55,109 --> 02:05:52,560
to

3383
02:05:56,870 --> 02:05:55,119
you know i realized when we speak of

3384
02:05:57,430 --> 02:05:56,880
people who are well known because i

3385
02:06:00,629 --> 02:05:57,440
don't want

3386
02:06:03,669 --> 02:06:00,639
such as

3387
02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:03,679
if i might mention real quickly you know

3388
02:06:07,669 --> 02:06:05,840
we mentioned i mentioned walton in our

3389
02:06:11,030 --> 02:06:07,679
last hurrah with you all

3390
02:06:13,589 --> 02:06:11,040
that conversation and his reaction to us

3391
02:06:15,030 --> 02:06:13,599
i felt like i think one of you had

3392
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:15,040
beautiful incitement

3393
02:06:19,669 --> 02:06:17,760
insightfulness over the idea how he may

3394
02:06:21,350 --> 02:06:19,679
have responded which is

3395
02:06:22,709 --> 02:06:21,360
you know i can't remember exactly right

3396
02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:22,719
now because we never

3397
02:06:27,430 --> 02:06:25,360
i have understood we haven't understood

3398
02:06:29,910 --> 02:06:27,440
nor have we necessarily tried

3399
02:06:30,790 --> 02:06:29,920
to fill in the blanks to to speak his

3400
02:06:32,870 --> 02:06:30,800
mind

3401
02:06:35,830 --> 02:06:32,880
i suspect this is just me i'm sticking

3402
02:06:39,669 --> 02:06:35,840
with it i suspect it's too close to home

3403
02:06:40,790 --> 02:06:39,679
yeah yeah exactly can i interject for

3404
02:06:43,430 --> 02:06:40,800
just a second

3405
02:06:44,229 --> 02:06:43,440
when i asked when i said how was when i

3406
02:06:46,790 --> 02:06:44,239
asked how was it

3407
02:06:48,390 --> 02:06:46,800
a disaster i was thinking i i was

3408
02:06:51,030 --> 02:06:48,400
alluding to the idea of like

3409
02:06:51,589 --> 02:06:51,040
in my mind i was i was thinking like oh

3410
02:06:56,950 --> 02:06:51,599
you

3411
02:06:58,709 --> 02:06:56,960
both

3412
02:07:00,069 --> 02:06:58,719
or maybe it just didn't work it was one

3413
02:07:02,390 --> 02:07:00,079
of the two that's where

3414
02:07:03,189 --> 02:07:02,400
i was going with i didn't uh you know i

3415
02:07:05,830 --> 02:07:03,199
wasn't

3416
02:07:06,709 --> 02:07:05,840
trying to probe you into talking about

3417
02:07:09,430 --> 02:07:06,719
any kind of

3418
02:07:11,189 --> 02:07:09,440
uh no no no i got i got no secrets i

3419
02:07:13,910 --> 02:07:11,199
find what's happened with these

3420
02:07:15,350 --> 02:07:13,920
known folks almost more interesting than

3421
02:07:18,950 --> 02:07:15,360
what's happened to us

3422
02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:18,960
with whatever one calls them yeah i

3423
02:07:22,629 --> 02:07:20,320
don't use the word e.t

3424
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:22,639
i don't use the word alien i use the

3425
02:07:26,470 --> 02:07:23,760
word being

3426
02:07:28,950 --> 02:07:26,480
i call them them kind of language i'm

3427
02:07:30,709 --> 02:07:28,960
just suggesting that the insanity of

3428
02:07:32,470 --> 02:07:30,719
what i see is insanity that i have

3429
02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:32,480
experienced personally in both chad and

3430
02:07:39,669 --> 02:07:33,040
i

3431
02:07:42,390 --> 02:07:39,679
yeah

3432
02:07:43,270 --> 02:07:42,400
so the disaster part of that was it

3433
02:07:45,350 --> 02:07:43,280
didn't happen

3434
02:07:47,109 --> 02:07:45,360
the regression never took place came

3435
02:07:48,550 --> 02:07:47,119
here it happened

3436
02:07:50,149 --> 02:07:48,560
so well you don't have to go you don't

3437
02:07:51,669 --> 02:07:50,159
have to go too far into it if you're

3438
02:07:54,470 --> 02:07:51,679
uncomfortable with it

3439
02:07:55,589 --> 02:07:54,480
paranormal led into it which i think is

3440
02:07:58,069 --> 02:07:55,599
interesting

3441
02:07:59,030 --> 02:07:58,079
this experience with this person so i've

3442
02:08:02,470 --> 02:07:59,040
never been able to be

3443
02:08:03,430 --> 02:08:02,480
regressed yet chad i've tried three

3444
02:08:06,470 --> 02:08:03,440
different

3445
02:08:10,069 --> 02:08:06,480
times and it just has not happened

3446
02:08:13,350 --> 02:08:10,079
but chad regresses apparently very easy

3447
02:08:15,350 --> 02:08:13,360
and we found somebody

3448
02:08:16,550 --> 02:08:15,360
here in alabama we used to live here

3449
02:08:19,430 --> 02:08:16,560
many years ago

3450
02:08:21,109 --> 02:08:19,440
we moved here originally in 2001 and we

3451
02:08:22,950 --> 02:08:21,119
found somebody i found somebody i think

3452
02:08:25,189 --> 02:08:22,960
in 2002

3453
02:08:26,790 --> 02:08:25,199
that drove a couple hours here to our

3454
02:08:29,350 --> 02:08:26,800
home a woman

3455
02:08:30,550 --> 02:08:29,360
who they had a nice relationship him and

3456
02:08:33,669 --> 02:08:30,560
her and chad

3457
02:08:34,790 --> 02:08:33,679
and they went off into a room and and

3458
02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:34,800
she regressed him

3459
02:08:39,270 --> 02:08:36,400
and if you're interested because i i

3460
02:08:42,149 --> 02:08:39,280
find this all so fascinating personally

3461
02:08:44,229 --> 02:08:42,159
to share with you what his aggression

3462
02:08:47,669 --> 02:08:44,239
showed as far as what happened to him

3463
02:08:49,910 --> 02:08:47,679
oh yeah absolutely and maybe like

3464
02:08:51,350 --> 02:08:49,920
maybe a possibility that christina was

3465
02:08:53,589 --> 02:08:51,360
involved with chad

3466
02:08:55,510 --> 02:08:53,599
in that experience but you'll listen to

3467
02:08:57,189 --> 02:08:55,520
him tell you this regression

3468
02:08:59,430 --> 02:08:57,199
and you'll discover i'm not a part of

3469
02:09:01,990 --> 02:08:59,440
any of his experience

3470
02:09:02,950 --> 02:09:02,000
when i came to the next morning of that

3471
02:09:04,629 --> 02:09:02,960
night

3472
02:09:07,030 --> 02:09:04,639
i told you i have memory of the in

3473
02:09:08,870 --> 02:09:07,040
between yeah in my memory

3474
02:09:10,709 --> 02:09:08,880
christina's not part of my experience

3475
02:09:13,270 --> 02:09:10,719
nor is chad

3476
02:09:13,990 --> 02:09:13,280
so if you'll just take note of that yeah

3477
02:09:16,950 --> 02:09:14,000
really quick

3478
02:09:18,709 --> 02:09:16,960
uh i mean like five five seconds i just

3479
02:09:21,589 --> 02:09:18,719
have to clear this up the

3480
02:09:21,990 --> 02:09:21,599
the lump was not christina in the bed

3481
02:09:27,109 --> 02:09:22,000
right

3482
02:09:28,629 --> 02:09:27,119
okay the one lump that was in the bed

3483
02:09:29,189 --> 02:09:28,639
belonged there and it happened to be

3484
02:09:31,910 --> 02:09:29,199
chad

3485
02:09:33,750 --> 02:09:31,920
okay you know was not a second lump nor

3486
02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:33,760
was she anywhere else in the apartment

3487
02:09:38,390 --> 02:09:36,880
yeah gotcha i just had to ask i don't

3488
02:09:40,069 --> 02:09:38,400
know i mean i'm not

3489
02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:40,079
insinuating anything i'm just thinking

3490
02:09:43,430 --> 02:09:42,480
like i'm sure somebody else out there is

3491
02:09:46,390 --> 02:09:43,440
probably thinking

3492
02:09:49,350 --> 02:09:46,400
who's the lumps right right yeah that

3493
02:09:52,390 --> 02:09:49,360
lump belonged to me and it was chad

3494
02:09:54,709 --> 02:09:52,400
gotcha okay so so

3495
02:09:55,669 --> 02:09:54,719
yeah sorry chad's regression chad's

3496
02:09:57,910 --> 02:09:55,679
regression thank you

3497
02:10:00,629 --> 02:09:57,920
sorry i keep i keep trailing you guys

3498
02:10:05,030 --> 02:10:00,639
off and i'm sorry about that

3499
02:10:05,350 --> 02:10:05,040
it's all good so uh again my last memory

3500
02:10:08,470 --> 02:10:05,360
is

3501
02:10:09,030 --> 02:10:08,480
being there on that stoop now what comes

3502
02:10:12,229 --> 02:10:09,040
out

3503
02:10:14,950 --> 02:10:12,239
in my regression is

3504
02:10:16,069 --> 02:10:14,960
our friend christina gets she finishes

3505
02:10:19,350 --> 02:10:16,079
talking to the

3506
02:10:22,069 --> 02:10:19,360
the door guy you know and she

3507
02:10:23,589 --> 02:10:22,079
uh joins us down you know mid block you

3508
02:10:24,709 --> 02:10:23,599
know at the stoop and we're sitting

3509
02:10:28,069 --> 02:10:24,719
there

3510
02:10:31,270 --> 02:10:28,079
and all of a sudden i look around the

3511
02:10:33,589 --> 02:10:31,280
corner and i could see this bright

3512
02:10:36,149 --> 02:10:33,599
bright light coming from around the

3513
02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:36,159
corner i get the girl's attention

3514
02:10:40,830 --> 02:10:38,639
and we walk around the corner this would

3515
02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:40,840
be like around the frenchman

3516
02:10:47,830 --> 02:10:44,560
area and we walk over

3517
02:10:51,430 --> 02:10:47,840
to frenchman we walk around the corner

3518
02:10:54,790 --> 02:10:51,440
and there's this huge orb

3519
02:10:57,350 --> 02:10:54,800
of light it's probably about 15

3520
02:11:00,310 --> 02:10:57,360
20 foot off the ground it's probably

3521
02:11:03,830 --> 02:11:00,320
about 12 foot in diameter

3522
02:11:07,350 --> 02:11:03,840
it's again this bright

3523
02:11:10,709 --> 02:11:07,360
white clear i mean a clean

3524
02:11:13,030 --> 02:11:10,719
just orb of light yeah the sudden

3525
02:11:14,069 --> 02:11:13,040
it just comes towards us and just

3526
02:11:17,830 --> 02:11:14,079
engulfs us

3527
02:11:20,229 --> 02:11:17,840
it just takes us in it or abducts us

3528
02:11:21,430 --> 02:11:20,239
oh that's where the title comes from

3529
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:21,440
yeah

3530
02:11:29,589 --> 02:11:26,320
orb this orb abducts us so it's

3531
02:11:33,830 --> 02:11:29,599
ducted my next memory

3532
02:11:35,910 --> 02:11:33,840
is i'm walking down this corridor the

3533
02:11:37,350 --> 02:11:35,920
you know there's lights but i don't see

3534
02:11:40,629 --> 02:11:37,360
any light

3535
02:11:43,990 --> 02:11:40,639
you know uh source

3536
02:11:48,550 --> 02:11:44,000
but the walls the the ceiling

3537
02:11:52,390 --> 02:11:48,560
the floor everything's metallic

3538
02:11:54,310 --> 02:11:52,400
no rivets no bolts very smooth

3539
02:11:57,030 --> 02:11:54,320
you know looking at it i didn't touch it

3540
02:12:00,310 --> 02:11:57,040
but i mean you know it's very smooth

3541
02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:00,320
you know there's nothing

3542
02:12:08,790 --> 02:12:04,560
there's i'm following this little being

3543
02:12:11,750 --> 02:12:08,800
he's probably about three four foot tall

3544
02:12:14,149 --> 02:12:11,760
he's got a big bulb his head now i only

3545
02:12:15,350 --> 02:12:14,159
see him from behind i never saw his face

3546
02:12:18,709 --> 02:12:15,360
that i remember

3547
02:12:22,149 --> 02:12:18,719
yeah he's wearing this tight uh

3548
02:12:23,189 --> 02:12:22,159
like one piece black almost like a scuba

3549
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:23,199
diver

3550
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:26,000
kind of clothing or you know what you'd

3551
02:12:29,589 --> 02:12:26,400
see

3552
02:12:31,669 --> 02:12:29,599
in you know

3553
02:12:33,510 --> 02:12:31,679
a spacecraft or something you know these

3554
02:12:36,550 --> 02:12:33,520
movies yeah

3555
02:12:37,750 --> 02:12:36,560
uh he now he's not real thin like you'd

3556
02:12:40,390 --> 02:12:37,760
see on tv

3557
02:12:42,629 --> 02:12:40,400
he's kind of has substance he you know

3558
02:12:44,709 --> 02:12:42,639
he kind of waddles he's almost

3559
02:12:47,030 --> 02:12:44,719
uh you know like a dwarf or a small

3560
02:12:50,390 --> 02:12:47,040
person you know he kind of waddles his

3561
02:12:57,669 --> 02:12:54,229
you know at out of my

3562
02:12:59,750 --> 02:12:57,679
corner of my eye on my left i could see

3563
02:13:02,870 --> 02:12:59,760
a tall blonde female

3564
02:13:03,189 --> 02:13:02,880
walking next to me again i didn't turn

3565
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:03,199
to

3566
02:13:06,390 --> 02:13:05,280
look but this does describe our friend

3567
02:13:09,109 --> 02:13:06,400
that was with us

3568
02:13:10,229 --> 02:13:09,119
but i didn't look to you know see if it

3569
02:13:13,270 --> 02:13:10,239
was her

3570
02:13:15,510 --> 02:13:13,280
you know i was almost like

3571
02:13:16,629 --> 02:13:15,520
zombie or you know not i hate to say

3572
02:13:19,189 --> 02:13:16,639
zombie but

3573
02:13:19,669 --> 02:13:19,199
like almost like in this dream state

3574
02:13:23,669 --> 02:13:19,679
kind of

3575
02:13:28,229 --> 02:13:23,679
where you know it's not

3576
02:13:30,149 --> 02:13:28,239
you know i'm not fully conscious i'm not

3577
02:13:32,950 --> 02:13:30,159
but i'm not like hypnotized you know i

3578
02:13:36,709 --> 02:13:32,960
can i can you know remember

3579
02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:36,719
uh my next memory is i'm in this

3580
02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:40,000
room and it just seems infinite

3581
02:13:45,589 --> 02:13:43,360
it's very very dark i can't see

3582
02:13:46,470 --> 02:13:45,599
you know how big this room is but it

3583
02:13:49,589 --> 02:13:46,480
just seems

3584
02:13:52,229 --> 02:13:49,599
huge huge

3585
02:13:53,430 --> 02:13:52,239
off to my left i could see a tall blind

3586
02:13:55,990 --> 02:13:53,440
female laying on an

3587
02:13:57,270 --> 02:13:56,000
examining table you know metallic kind

3588
02:14:00,870 --> 02:13:57,280
of table

3589
02:14:03,270 --> 02:14:00,880
she was nude but i couldn't see

3590
02:14:04,470 --> 02:14:03,280
like body parts i couldn't see her face

3591
02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:04,480
it was

3592
02:14:08,069 --> 02:14:07,360
like you know how like on regular tv you

3593
02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:08,079
know they

3594
02:14:12,229 --> 02:14:10,800
blur out the body parts and stuff like

3595
02:14:19,109 --> 02:14:12,239
that

3596
02:14:19,669 --> 02:14:19,119
you know or how she was it's almost like

3597
02:14:21,350 --> 02:14:19,679
uh

3598
02:14:23,589 --> 02:14:21,360
it's almost kind of like a dream like

3599
02:14:24,629 --> 02:14:23,599
when you are in a dream state and you

3600
02:14:27,910 --> 02:14:24,639
see people

3601
02:14:31,669 --> 02:14:27,920
this just

3602
02:14:34,950 --> 02:14:31,679
almost like a blur image of something

3603
02:14:38,629 --> 02:14:34,960
and you you understand and you feel

3604
02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:38,639
uh a person but you don't uh

3605
02:14:41,750 --> 02:14:41,199
physically see it but you understand you

3606
02:14:44,790 --> 02:14:41,760
have that

3607
02:14:48,310 --> 02:14:44,800
almost human connection to that other

3608
02:14:51,430 --> 02:14:48,320
being yeah yeah there are

3609
02:14:54,950 --> 02:14:51,440
three beings around her one

3610
02:14:57,189 --> 02:14:54,960
uh on each side of her and one at the

3611
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:57,199
like around her head you know at the end

3612
02:15:01,510 --> 02:14:58,560
of the tape

3613
02:15:02,390 --> 02:15:01,520
these beans were very tall they were

3614
02:15:06,229 --> 02:15:02,400
like

3615
02:15:09,350 --> 02:15:06,239
seven eight foot tall wow they had

3616
02:15:09,750 --> 02:15:09,360
big bulbous heads their mouths were kind

3617
02:15:14,229 --> 02:15:09,760
of

3618
02:15:17,589 --> 02:15:14,239
praying mana see

3619
02:15:19,510 --> 02:15:17,599
you know big big eyes their arms were

3620
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:19,520
kind of crooked you know like a kind of

3621
02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:22,000
a praying mantis

3622
02:15:29,109 --> 02:15:25,440
they were wearing this this cloak

3623
02:15:32,390 --> 02:15:29,119
this or coat or uh

3624
02:15:34,069 --> 02:15:32,400
yeah cloak almost like the grim reaper

3625
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:34,079
but without the hood

3626
02:15:37,669 --> 02:15:36,560
yeah you know okay or like a desert

3627
02:15:40,709 --> 02:15:37,679
jesuit priest

3628
02:15:43,830 --> 02:15:40,719
you know very long

3629
02:15:46,870 --> 02:15:43,840
black you know like like

3630
02:15:50,470 --> 02:15:46,880
a wizard's cloak like with the long

3631
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:50,480
arm armholes long arm you know long

3632
02:15:55,109 --> 02:15:51,760
sleeves

3633
02:15:57,109 --> 02:15:55,119
you know uh her

3634
02:15:58,390 --> 02:15:57,119
now the person on the table never seemed

3635
02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:58,400
to be in distress

3636
02:16:01,830 --> 02:16:00,639
or anything like that or pain i didn't

3637
02:16:04,149 --> 02:16:01,840
see any kind of

3638
02:16:06,310 --> 02:16:04,159
you know weird things going on with her

3639
02:16:08,550 --> 02:16:06,320
with them

3640
02:16:09,510 --> 02:16:08,560
i focus my attention back to my

3641
02:16:12,390 --> 02:16:09,520
immediate

3642
02:16:14,310 --> 02:16:12,400
now again this room was very very dark

3643
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:14,320
but there was like a little bit of light

3644
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:15,119
around

3645
02:16:20,310 --> 02:16:17,920
her and the beings i don't remember a

3646
02:16:22,470 --> 02:16:20,320
light source but there was light

3647
02:16:24,229 --> 02:16:22,480
and if i might interject very quickly so

3648
02:16:25,990 --> 02:16:24,239
you can really see the picture he's

3649
02:16:28,870 --> 02:16:26,000
trying to paint for you

3650
02:16:29,910 --> 02:16:28,880
her body parts were censored not

3651
02:16:31,830 --> 02:16:29,920
anything else

3652
02:16:33,669 --> 02:16:31,840
everything else is head to toe very

3653
02:16:37,110 --> 02:16:33,679
clear for chad as far as

3654
02:16:38,870 --> 02:16:37,120
is visual yeah it's it's all very clear

3655
02:16:44,830 --> 02:16:38,880
only her body parts

3656
02:16:49,030 --> 02:16:46,150
means

3657
02:16:50,070 --> 02:16:49,040
yeah we're wondering the whole story

3658
02:16:52,950 --> 02:16:50,080
right that's right

3659
02:16:53,750 --> 02:16:52,960
yeah yeah that's such a specific thing

3660
02:17:00,230 --> 02:16:53,760
to do

3661
02:17:05,750 --> 02:17:00,240
yeah okay sorry uh just to blur

3662
02:17:10,790 --> 02:17:09,030
and so okay so i i focus my attention

3663
02:17:13,910 --> 02:17:10,800
back to my immediate

3664
02:17:16,469 --> 02:17:13,920
i look over to my right and there's this

3665
02:17:20,709 --> 02:17:16,479
little blue being

3666
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:20,719
now he's big bubba's head

3667
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:23,040
almond-shaped eyes little split for a

3668
02:17:27,190 --> 02:17:24,000
mouth you know

3669
02:17:30,549 --> 02:17:27,200
maybe now

3670
02:17:34,070 --> 02:17:30,559
he's he looks a lot like the

3671
02:17:34,790 --> 02:17:34,080
you know beings that you see on tv you

3672
02:17:38,150 --> 02:17:34,800
know

3673
02:17:40,549 --> 02:17:38,160
very thin maybe three foot craze

3674
02:17:42,150 --> 02:17:40,559
yeah the grays we're also looking at

3675
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:42,160
your profile photo on

3676
02:17:47,990 --> 02:17:45,200
skype and uh yeah right

3677
02:17:49,349 --> 02:17:48,000
yeah now that's uh the artist's

3678
02:17:52,709 --> 02:17:49,359
rendition

3679
02:17:55,910 --> 02:17:52,719
uh mine was a little softer than that

3680
02:17:56,870 --> 02:17:55,920
not as kind of grimace okay looking

3681
02:17:58,549 --> 02:17:56,880
scary looking

3682
02:18:00,230 --> 02:17:58,559
yeah there's some like cheekbone action

3683
02:18:03,830 --> 02:18:00,240
and like nose

3684
02:18:06,150 --> 02:18:03,840
action going on right and chad always

3685
02:18:09,270 --> 02:18:06,160
described this blue being is vibrant

3686
02:18:12,870 --> 02:18:09,280
yeah he's like electric vibrant electric

3687
02:18:15,190 --> 02:18:12,880
yeah just very beautiful blue

3688
02:18:16,709 --> 02:18:15,200
now he had skin tone you know like his

3689
02:18:20,389 --> 02:18:16,719
his palms were

3690
02:18:22,870 --> 02:18:20,399
the top of his hand

3691
02:18:24,629 --> 02:18:22,880
you know in the back of his hand you

3692
02:18:27,589 --> 02:18:24,639
know it's just

3693
02:18:28,870 --> 02:18:27,599
skin tone that's such a specific detail

3694
02:18:31,429 --> 02:18:28,880
that not a lot of people

3695
02:18:33,270 --> 02:18:31,439
think about like the way that skin tone

3696
02:18:34,150 --> 02:18:33,280
changes from the top of your hands to

3697
02:18:37,190 --> 02:18:34,160
your palms

3698
02:18:40,790 --> 02:18:37,200
yeah i i'm yeah i'm floored right now

3699
02:18:44,070 --> 02:18:40,800
okay sorry i just had to point that out

3700
02:18:47,830 --> 02:18:44,080
yeah so in in his aura his

3701
02:18:50,950 --> 02:18:47,840
presence was that of like a

3702
02:18:55,509 --> 02:18:50,960
uh scientist slash shaman

3703
02:18:58,950 --> 02:18:55,519
slash you know professor

3704
02:19:03,669 --> 02:18:58,960
just this ancient holistic

3705
02:19:10,469 --> 02:19:07,429
he goes over and he picks up this box

3706
02:19:11,830 --> 02:19:10,479
he has it in his right hand now he's

3707
02:19:14,549 --> 02:19:11,840
only got four digits

3708
02:19:15,589 --> 02:19:14,559
you know like three fingers and a thumb

3709
02:19:18,070 --> 02:19:15,599
he takes his

3710
02:19:20,309 --> 02:19:18,080
his he's got the box in his right hand

3711
02:19:22,790 --> 02:19:20,319
he takes his left hand and puts it into

3712
02:19:25,270 --> 02:19:22,800
the side of the box

3713
02:19:26,950 --> 02:19:25,280
okay he pulls his when he pulls his hand

3714
02:19:30,230 --> 02:19:26,960
out there's like this

3715
02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:30,240
substance kind of floating free floating

3716
02:19:36,389 --> 02:19:34,000
a couple inches off above over his hand

3717
02:19:37,830 --> 02:19:36,399
you know he has his hand like right flat

3718
02:19:41,429 --> 02:19:37,840
out

3719
02:19:44,549 --> 02:19:41,439
and this substance is

3720
02:19:46,389 --> 02:19:44,559
again pretty floating it's blue the same

3721
02:19:47,589 --> 02:19:46,399
color blue as him

3722
02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:47,599
you could kind of it was kind of

3723
02:19:52,870 --> 02:19:50,240
translucent

3724
02:19:53,750 --> 02:19:52,880
and you could see like these little

3725
02:19:57,030 --> 02:19:53,760
metal

3726
02:19:57,429 --> 02:19:57,040
literally glitter glittery flakes kind

3727
02:19:59,510 --> 02:19:57,439
of

3728
02:20:01,429 --> 02:19:59,520
floating and moving around in it you

3729
02:20:02,950 --> 02:20:01,439
know it was kind of undulating and

3730
02:20:04,870 --> 02:20:02,960
moving around it kind of looked like

3731
02:20:06,550 --> 02:20:04,880
that slime stuff that

3732
02:20:08,150 --> 02:20:06,560
kids played with back in the day you

3733
02:20:11,750 --> 02:20:08,160
know way way back in the day you know

3734
02:20:14,469 --> 02:20:11,760
oh yeah yeah

3735
02:20:17,030 --> 02:20:14,479
and it was it was probably maybe the

3736
02:20:19,750 --> 02:20:17,040
size of a

3737
02:20:23,750 --> 02:20:19,760
quarter or a half a dollar you know

3738
02:20:29,190 --> 02:20:26,230
and so i don't even remember him setting

3739
02:20:31,990 --> 02:20:29,200
the box down but he takes his right hand

3740
02:20:32,630 --> 02:20:32,000
and he puts it up next to his hand and

3741
02:20:35,590 --> 02:20:32,640
beside

3742
02:20:36,950 --> 02:20:35,600
this blue substance that's floating

3743
02:20:40,630 --> 02:20:36,960
above his hand

3744
02:20:41,590 --> 02:20:40,640
and when he he takes his outer fingers

3745
02:20:44,550 --> 02:20:41,600
and folds him in

3746
02:20:46,309 --> 02:20:44,560
and has his two middle fingers uh almost

3747
02:20:47,190 --> 02:20:46,319
kind of like a peace sign or what you

3748
02:20:49,510 --> 02:20:47,200
see like

3749
02:20:50,870 --> 02:20:49,520
the buddhist monks or you know

3750
02:20:54,070 --> 02:20:50,880
depictions of jesus

3751
02:20:56,830 --> 02:20:54,080
oh yeah yeah you know and he's got like

3752
02:20:59,590 --> 02:20:56,840
this two his two fingers up

3753
02:20:59,990 --> 02:20:59,600
and when he does this this substance

3754
02:21:02,790 --> 02:21:00,000
starts

3755
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:02,800
spinning and it's going faster and

3756
02:21:06,870 --> 02:21:04,319
faster and faster

3757
02:21:08,950 --> 02:21:06,880
and the faster it gets the blueness and

3758
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:08,960
the sparkly stuff in

3759
02:21:14,870 --> 02:21:12,080
metal flaky stuff kind of dissipate

3760
02:21:17,030 --> 02:21:14,880
out of it and it's kind of rotating

3761
02:21:17,429 --> 02:21:17,040
around it almost like the planets do

3762
02:21:19,190 --> 02:21:17,439
with

3763
02:21:21,750 --> 02:21:19,200
you know the sun and all that kind of

3764
02:21:25,190 --> 02:21:21,760
stuff yeah and

3765
02:21:26,070 --> 02:21:25,200
it it starts slowing down and it turned

3766
02:21:29,349 --> 02:21:26,080
into this like

3767
02:21:32,550 --> 02:21:29,359
double-pointed crystal

3768
02:21:33,190 --> 02:21:32,560
like a quartz crystal but it's very very

3769
02:21:35,590 --> 02:21:33,200
clear

3770
02:21:37,990 --> 02:21:35,600
i mean you can see through it there's no

3771
02:21:41,190 --> 02:21:38,000
cloudiness there's no nothing

3772
02:21:42,550 --> 02:21:41,200
i remember thinking to him why are you

3773
02:21:44,790 --> 02:21:42,560
showing this to me

3774
02:21:47,030 --> 02:21:44,800
i'm not a doctor i'm not a scientist i'm

3775
02:21:48,710 --> 02:21:47,040
not an engineer this is something very

3776
02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:48,720
important

3777
02:21:52,710 --> 02:21:51,760
now you know back in the day i used to

3778
02:21:55,349 --> 02:21:52,720
think maybe

3779
02:21:57,110 --> 02:21:55,359
it was some kind of power source or

3780
02:22:00,230 --> 02:21:57,120
something like that

3781
02:22:02,230 --> 02:22:00,240
i'm thinking more now it's maybe a power

3782
02:22:06,830 --> 02:22:02,240
source but something more

3783
02:22:10,150 --> 02:22:06,840
holistic power you know nowadays

3784
02:22:14,150 --> 02:22:10,160
yeah my next memory

3785
02:22:17,910 --> 02:22:14,160
is i'm in this other room it's two walls

3786
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:17,920
or there's three walls but one's kind of

3787
02:22:26,790 --> 02:22:24,790
concave you know two very straight walls

3788
02:22:29,349 --> 02:22:26,800
one kind of concave

3789
02:22:32,070 --> 02:22:29,359
again the walls are very metallic the

3790
02:22:35,030 --> 02:22:32,080
room's probably about

3791
02:22:37,750 --> 02:22:35,040
15 by 20 but you know something like

3792
02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:37,760
that

3793
02:22:42,389 --> 02:22:40,080
the walls again and very metallic very

3794
02:22:45,830 --> 02:22:42,399
smooth no rivets no bolts no seams

3795
02:22:47,830 --> 02:22:45,840
no nothing now this is a part that

3796
02:22:49,590 --> 02:22:47,840
really gets me and i hate saying it but

3797
02:22:52,070 --> 02:22:49,600
it's part of my truth

3798
02:22:54,070 --> 02:22:52,080
there's this overstuffed leather chair

3799
02:22:58,389 --> 02:22:54,080
sitting in the middle of the uh

3800
02:22:59,510 --> 02:22:58,399
room i i remember thinking how out of

3801
02:23:02,630 --> 02:22:59,520
place it looked

3802
02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:02,640
yeah yeah and

3803
02:23:07,190 --> 02:23:04,479
you know it's like like family black

3804
02:23:09,270 --> 02:23:07,200
leather you know

3805
02:23:12,550 --> 02:23:09,280
it's got like a newspaper like on the

3806
02:23:16,550 --> 02:23:12,560
side there's like a coffee stain

3807
02:23:19,990 --> 02:23:16,560
right pipe cigar yeah yeah yeah

3808
02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:20,000
cocktail but you know and i remember

3809
02:23:24,309 --> 02:23:22,000
thinking to myself it looks comfortable

3810
02:23:25,510 --> 02:23:24,319
but it's not

3811
02:23:27,750 --> 02:23:25,520
aren't they all like they look

3812
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:27,760
comfortable but they're like they're not

3813
02:23:32,550 --> 02:23:31,120
comfortable at all yeah yeah they're so

3814
02:23:33,750 --> 02:23:32,560
expensive but they're like not

3815
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:33,760
comfortable

3816
02:23:36,630 --> 02:23:35,200
you gotta break it in it's like a

3817
02:23:37,270 --> 02:23:36,640
five-year thing where you have to break

3818
02:23:41,429 --> 02:23:37,280
it in

3819
02:23:46,469 --> 02:23:44,309
so anyway and if you pick one up at a

3820
02:23:50,630 --> 02:23:46,479
garage sale it's not comfy for you

3821
02:23:52,469 --> 02:23:50,640
yeah yeah yeah don't think about it

3822
02:23:55,030 --> 02:23:52,479
that's like it's a different butt shape

3823
02:23:57,590 --> 02:23:55,040
it's like it's like why your dad

3824
02:23:59,270 --> 02:23:57,600
it's like why your dad loves his chair

3825
02:24:00,790 --> 02:23:59,280
and why he gets pissed when your mom

3826
02:24:02,630 --> 02:24:00,800
sells it at a garage sale

3827
02:24:04,550 --> 02:24:02,640
because he's like it took me five years

3828
02:24:06,150 --> 02:24:04,560
to break that in it's my favorite chair

3829
02:24:08,070 --> 02:24:06,160
it's the most comfy thing in the world

3830
02:24:11,510 --> 02:24:08,080
it's like a baseball mitt yeah

3831
02:24:14,710 --> 02:24:11,520
yeah i i have i have uh lubricated

3832
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:14,720
with that with my body oils for years

3833
02:24:18,790 --> 02:24:17,200
yeah it's like a it's like a like a new

3834
02:24:21,590 --> 02:24:18,800
pair of underwear you know it's like

3835
02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:21,600
at first it's constricting but after a

3836
02:24:24,309 --> 02:24:22,000
while

3837
02:24:25,429 --> 02:24:24,319
it becomes a part of you yeah you know

3838
02:24:26,790 --> 02:24:25,439
you know

3839
02:24:28,309 --> 02:24:26,800
like when you first put on that first

3840
02:24:29,110 --> 02:24:28,319
pair of fresh undies you're like these

3841
02:24:31,030 --> 02:24:29,120
are a little tight

3842
02:24:32,389 --> 02:24:31,040
they're stiff maybe i should get large

3843
02:24:34,790 --> 02:24:32,399
next time but then you're like

3844
02:24:36,150 --> 02:24:34,800
oh okay after i stretch out well i guess

3845
02:24:38,630 --> 02:24:36,160
i didn't need large

3846
02:24:39,590 --> 02:24:38,640
bummer after after i cleaned the gutters

3847
02:24:42,790 --> 02:24:39,600
now they fit

3848
02:24:45,429 --> 02:24:42,800
yeah right yeah

3849
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:45,439
so i focus my attention back to the wall

3850
02:24:52,469 --> 02:24:51,349
so i i walk a little closer and i'm like

3851
02:24:55,510 --> 02:24:52,479
maybe five

3852
02:24:56,710 --> 02:24:55,520
six foot away from it at the most and

3853
02:24:59,590 --> 02:24:56,720
what i thought was this

3854
02:25:00,230 --> 02:24:59,600
solid metal wall i could see through it

3855
02:25:02,870 --> 02:25:00,240
now

3856
02:25:04,790 --> 02:25:02,880
whoa once i walked closer to it i could

3857
02:25:06,389 --> 02:25:04,800
see through it it's a wall down

3858
02:25:09,190 --> 02:25:06,399
yeah it's like this whole window and

3859
02:25:12,710 --> 02:25:09,200
it's probably you know a good 20-foot

3860
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:12,720
you know wall window you know again kind

3861
02:25:17,670 --> 02:25:13,760
of concave

3862
02:25:19,429 --> 02:25:17,680
you know where it's you know and

3863
02:25:22,309 --> 02:25:19,439
i can see through it and i could see

3864
02:25:24,309 --> 02:25:22,319
like stars and planets and

3865
02:25:25,590 --> 02:25:24,319
just you know it's like i'm out in the

3866
02:25:28,950 --> 02:25:25,600
galaxy somewhere

3867
02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:28,960
what dude

3868
02:25:34,469 --> 02:25:32,000
i'm sitting there kind of freaking out

3869
02:25:35,990 --> 02:25:34,479
and in awe and all that kind of stuff

3870
02:25:39,750 --> 02:25:36,000
and then all of a sudden

3871
02:25:42,870 --> 02:25:39,760
from the left comes this little crap

3872
02:25:44,150 --> 02:25:42,880
and it just i mean if i if i could stuck

3873
02:25:46,150 --> 02:25:44,160
my hand through the wall i could have

3874
02:25:49,670 --> 02:25:46,160
touched it that's how close it was

3875
02:25:52,790 --> 02:25:49,680
to this wall window it zooms past

3876
02:25:55,110 --> 02:25:52,800
it gets about nine maybe ten foot past

3877
02:25:56,309 --> 02:25:55,120
me and it stops just right there on the

3878
02:25:58,630 --> 02:25:56,319
dime

3879
02:25:59,830 --> 02:25:58,640
and it kind of does a double take it

3880
02:26:02,070 --> 02:25:59,840
comes back

3881
02:26:03,429 --> 02:26:02,080
and it's like we're face to face you

3882
02:26:07,750 --> 02:26:03,439
know face the crap

3883
02:26:10,070 --> 02:26:07,760
described it's probably about three

3884
02:26:13,670 --> 02:26:10,080
i can hear you giggling in the back

3885
02:26:16,389 --> 02:26:13,680
because i'm dying over this

3886
02:26:18,950 --> 02:26:16,399
you know all these years it never gets

3887
02:26:22,950 --> 02:26:18,960
boring to me it just sounds adorable

3888
02:26:24,870 --> 02:26:22,960
oh yeah it's about three foot long

3889
02:26:26,389 --> 02:26:24,880
it's probably about two foot wide and

3890
02:26:28,550 --> 02:26:26,399
it's kind of shaped almost like a

3891
02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:28,560
football or a rugby ball

3892
02:26:33,429 --> 02:26:31,600
you know interesting metallic it's

3893
02:26:35,190 --> 02:26:33,439
metallic it's got little lights

3894
02:26:36,870 --> 02:26:35,200
kind of blinking on it it's got little

3895
02:26:39,830 --> 02:26:36,880
wires kind of moving around

3896
02:26:41,190 --> 02:26:39,840
and antennas kind of moving around and i

3897
02:26:43,590 --> 02:26:41,200
could almost feel like

3898
02:26:45,030 --> 02:26:43,600
on the inside something was on the

3899
02:26:47,030 --> 02:26:45,040
inside going

3900
02:26:48,070 --> 02:26:47,040
look at the monkey in the window or you

3901
02:26:52,790 --> 02:26:48,080
know look at that

3902
02:26:57,030 --> 02:26:54,870
and you know a giant monkey in the

3903
02:27:02,230 --> 02:26:57,040
window

3904
02:27:04,309 --> 02:27:02,240
yeah and um it set there for like 30 40

3905
02:27:06,469 --> 02:27:04,319
seconds maybe at the most

3906
02:27:08,309 --> 02:27:06,479
and then just zoomed off in the same

3907
02:27:10,309 --> 02:27:08,319
direction it was going to and the next

3908
02:27:13,830 --> 02:27:10,319
memory i know is waking up in bed the

3909
02:27:18,230 --> 02:27:16,870
that is insane so there's there's two

3910
02:27:21,990 --> 02:27:18,240
things i kind of want to

3911
02:27:24,950 --> 02:27:22,000
break down a little bit one is

3912
02:27:26,309 --> 02:27:24,960
the fact that we've heard a lot of

3913
02:27:30,150 --> 02:27:26,319
reports

3914
02:27:32,309 --> 02:27:30,160
on people seeing these craft um

3915
02:27:33,349 --> 02:27:32,319
you know they're not like massive or

3916
02:27:36,469 --> 02:27:33,359
anything

3917
02:27:40,230 --> 02:27:36,479
uh but then when they get inside

3918
02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:40,240
it's huge it's absolutely humongous

3919
02:27:44,150 --> 02:27:42,720
and so it kind of made me think of of

3920
02:27:47,990 --> 02:27:44,160
like the tardis

3921
02:27:51,190 --> 02:27:48,000
if you if you're inside of this craft

3922
02:27:54,710 --> 02:27:51,200
and you're looking out maybe you saw

3923
02:27:58,070 --> 02:27:54,720
like a another big ufo

3924
02:28:00,870 --> 02:27:58,080
but from the inside it just looks small

3925
02:28:01,990 --> 02:28:00,880
you know right right kind of the

3926
02:28:03,910 --> 02:28:02,000
opposite of being

3927
02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:03,920
in it it's like it looks small from out

3928
02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:06,160
here but now i'm inside and it's

3929
02:28:10,870 --> 02:28:09,520
massive it's huge so breaking that

3930
02:28:13,110 --> 02:28:10,880
really quick i know you have another

3931
02:28:13,750 --> 02:28:13,120
point joe but uh if these craft do

3932
02:28:16,630 --> 02:28:13,760
indeed

3933
02:28:18,710 --> 02:28:16,640
use gravitational fields we all know

3934
02:28:21,349 --> 02:28:18,720
that gravity

3935
02:28:22,230 --> 02:28:21,359
bends and does weird [\h__\h] with light

3936
02:28:26,630 --> 02:28:22,240
yeah

3937
02:28:28,150 --> 02:28:26,640
warping effect when it becomes like oh

3938
02:28:30,150 --> 02:28:28,160
we're looking outside of this

3939
02:28:32,230 --> 02:28:30,160
gravity bubble yeah what is what does

3940
02:28:34,389 --> 02:28:32,240
that do from something that's

3941
02:28:36,070 --> 02:28:34,399
a foot away 10 feet away 20 feet away

3942
02:28:37,190 --> 02:28:36,080
yeah exactly maybe that has

3943
02:28:39,110 --> 02:28:37,200
something to do with it warps

3944
02:28:41,349 --> 02:28:39,120
perspective yeah yeah yeah

3945
02:28:44,070 --> 02:28:41,359
cause yeah that's exactly yeah

3946
02:28:45,990 --> 02:28:44,080
perspective is the key there like

3947
02:28:47,910 --> 02:28:46,000
what is the perspective is it outside of

3948
02:28:50,710 --> 02:28:47,920
the bubble or is it inside of this

3949
02:28:51,349 --> 02:28:50,720
light bending bubble and then also kind

3950
02:28:54,630 --> 02:28:51,359
of how

3951
02:28:58,070 --> 02:28:54,640
uh how you were talking about like uh uh

3952
02:29:02,389 --> 02:28:58,080
you know who would be more interested in

3953
02:29:05,270 --> 02:29:02,399
human history than our future selves

3954
02:29:06,389 --> 02:29:05,280
right so if if you were in the future

3955
02:29:08,790 --> 02:29:06,399
and able to

3956
02:29:10,150 --> 02:29:08,800
travel back in time you know that's

3957
02:29:10,630 --> 02:29:10,160
interesting that it would be kind of

3958
02:29:14,630 --> 02:29:10,640
like a

3959
02:29:16,630 --> 02:29:14,640
about and and the way that they

3960
02:29:18,150 --> 02:29:16,640
they looked at you and you got this

3961
02:29:19,510 --> 02:29:18,160
feeling that they were like hey look at

3962
02:29:22,710 --> 02:29:19,520
that monkey

3963
02:29:25,110 --> 02:29:22,720
it's almost like a a a field trip

3964
02:29:26,309 --> 02:29:25,120
of of uh you know more you know

3965
02:29:29,349 --> 02:29:26,319
futuristic

3966
02:29:31,990 --> 02:29:29,359
yeah advanced uh humans and they

3967
02:29:34,309 --> 02:29:32,000
you know picked you up right now you're

3968
02:29:38,389 --> 02:29:34,319
kind of this this show

3969
02:29:40,550 --> 02:29:38,399
yeah i k i have i have another thing

3970
02:29:41,830 --> 02:29:40,560
joe was that your the the two because i

3971
02:29:45,270 --> 02:29:41,840
have a couple i want to oh

3972
02:29:49,349 --> 02:29:45,280
so okay and then one more the

3973
02:29:51,270 --> 02:29:49,359
orb aspect of this thing um

3974
02:29:52,950 --> 02:29:51,280
it's kind of a kind of a new guy coming

3975
02:29:57,110 --> 02:29:52,960
out i don't know if you guys have ever

3976
02:30:01,990 --> 02:30:00,469
he has actually uh dude that was in

3977
02:30:05,030 --> 02:30:02,000
louisiana too

3978
02:30:07,030 --> 02:30:05,040
they were out in the swamps so

3979
02:30:09,429 --> 02:30:07,040
yeah so this is pretty interesting they

3980
02:30:11,590 --> 02:30:09,439
they grew up in the backwoods swamps

3981
02:30:13,590 --> 02:30:11,600
you know they were just they were just

3982
02:30:16,870 --> 02:30:13,600
swamp people basically

3983
02:30:18,710 --> 02:30:16,880
and they had this experience where

3984
02:30:20,469 --> 02:30:18,720
something actually came and landed in

3985
02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:20,479
the yard his whole family saw it

3986
02:30:24,950 --> 02:30:23,439
his whole family saw it and then i know

3987
02:30:28,070 --> 02:30:24,960
this one too

3988
02:30:30,150 --> 02:30:28,080
yeah and so the the uh you know

3989
02:30:32,469 --> 02:30:30,160
the whole family ended up being like

3990
02:30:34,790 --> 02:30:32,479
phds and doctors and

3991
02:30:36,230 --> 02:30:34,800
doing very well in school and very well

3992
02:30:38,230 --> 02:30:36,240
for themselves out of nowhere

3993
02:30:39,670 --> 02:30:38,240
yeah just out of nowhere they were all

3994
02:30:43,110 --> 02:30:39,680
just brilliant

3995
02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:43,120
um and so he actually had an occurrence

3996
02:30:46,389 --> 02:30:44,080
where

3997
02:30:47,670 --> 02:30:46,399
there was this massive green light that

3998
02:30:50,550 --> 02:30:47,680
filled their house and

3999
02:30:52,870 --> 02:30:50,560
he wasn't home but his family was and so

4000
02:30:56,950 --> 02:30:52,880
he decided to set up these cameras

4001
02:31:00,389 --> 02:30:56,960
and he he i guess he either owns

4002
02:31:03,270 --> 02:31:00,399
or operates a very like high

4003
02:31:04,469 --> 02:31:03,280
high-tech company that started uh

4004
02:31:06,309 --> 02:31:04,479
investigating

4005
02:31:07,750 --> 02:31:06,319
orbs things that they were catching on

4006
02:31:11,110 --> 02:31:07,760
the cameras

4007
02:31:13,910 --> 02:31:11,120
and they were actually able to

4008
02:31:15,110 --> 02:31:13,920
catch an orb a small orb something that

4009
02:31:17,830 --> 02:31:15,120
you would see like an

4010
02:31:19,990 --> 02:31:17,840
you know like a ghost yeah ghost hunters

4011
02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:20,000
or like you know the little orbs

4012
02:31:23,670 --> 02:31:22,399
they were actually able to capture an

4013
02:31:26,309 --> 02:31:23,680
orb and zoom

4014
02:31:27,670 --> 02:31:26,319
into it and i guess the filters that

4015
02:31:29,910 --> 02:31:27,680
they use

4016
02:31:30,790 --> 02:31:29,920
on the cameras they were actually able

4017
02:31:34,070 --> 02:31:30,800
to find like

4018
02:31:37,349 --> 02:31:34,080
little gears and working components

4019
02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:37,359
to the orbs on the inside yeah

4020
02:31:41,110 --> 02:31:39,760
yeah yeah so there's like there's like

4021
02:31:44,150 --> 02:31:41,120
two sides to that right like

4022
02:31:45,190 --> 02:31:44,160
you could see an uh a lens refraction of

4023
02:31:47,590 --> 02:31:45,200
a light at

4024
02:31:48,710 --> 02:31:47,600
a certain distance it looks pretty crazy

4025
02:31:50,710 --> 02:31:48,720
i mean the human eye

4026
02:31:52,550 --> 02:31:50,720
our brains we want to see faces we want

4027
02:31:54,389 --> 02:31:52,560
to see we want to make patterns that's

4028
02:31:56,550 --> 02:31:54,399
just how the human brain works

4029
02:31:57,590 --> 02:31:56,560
right but we tested him on that theory

4030
02:32:00,550 --> 02:31:57,600
and he was like oh

4031
02:32:01,990 --> 02:32:00,560
dude i know about that uh what we're

4032
02:32:04,309 --> 02:32:02,000
saying is not that

4033
02:32:05,429 --> 02:32:04,319
yeah they they've found you know these

4034
02:32:08,630 --> 02:32:05,439
orbs to be

4035
02:32:10,710 --> 02:32:08,640
a mechanical something mechanical

4036
02:32:12,469 --> 02:32:10,720
and he like alluded to the fact like hey

4037
02:32:14,550 --> 02:32:12,479
you'll hear about it soon it's just

4038
02:32:16,389 --> 02:32:14,560
we're we're trying to come up we're

4039
02:32:17,190 --> 02:32:16,399
trying to finish off this paper and this

4040
02:32:19,510 --> 02:32:17,200
study so

4041
02:32:20,230 --> 02:32:19,520
and so his his whole thing is he they're

4042
02:32:23,429 --> 02:32:20,240
trying to

4043
02:32:26,230 --> 02:32:23,439
uh write a bill that uh

4044
02:32:26,710 --> 02:32:26,240
he you know his whole perspective is you

4045
02:32:29,110 --> 02:32:26,720
know

4046
02:32:30,309 --> 02:32:29,120
uh you spent millions and millions of

4047
02:32:33,349 --> 02:32:30,319
dollars

4048
02:32:36,389 --> 02:32:33,359
money

4049
02:32:38,870 --> 02:32:36,399
um researching this stuff and these

4050
02:32:39,510 --> 02:32:38,880
craft and everything and you never knew

4051
02:32:41,830 --> 02:32:39,520
about it

4052
02:32:44,070 --> 02:32:41,840
and the advancement of society as a

4053
02:32:44,950 --> 02:32:44,080
whole has a lot to do with the stuff

4054
02:32:48,230 --> 02:32:44,960
that they have

4055
02:32:50,630 --> 02:32:48,240
found and you as a citizen

4056
02:32:52,309 --> 02:32:50,640
um paying your tax money haven't had the

4057
02:32:54,790 --> 02:32:52,319
opportunity to uh

4058
02:32:55,429 --> 02:32:54,800
uh reap the benefits of what they have

4059
02:32:57,750 --> 02:32:55,439
found

4060
02:32:58,870 --> 02:32:57,760
so this bill that he's introducing to

4061
02:33:02,389 --> 02:32:58,880
congress

4062
02:33:05,750 --> 02:33:02,399
is basically kind of a a little catch

4063
02:33:09,429 --> 02:33:05,760
so it's like if you deny this bill

4064
02:33:12,150 --> 02:33:09,439
then that means that you're guilty of of

4065
02:33:12,870 --> 02:33:12,160
harnessing this technology for your own

4066
02:33:15,510 --> 02:33:12,880
good

4067
02:33:16,950 --> 02:33:15,520
so so basically when they propose this

4068
02:33:21,270 --> 02:33:16,960
bill to congress

4069
02:33:22,790 --> 02:33:21,280
you would almost have to tell the truth

4070
02:33:24,790 --> 02:33:22,800
about that it doesn't matter yeah to

4071
02:33:25,830 --> 02:33:24,800
prove that it doesn't exist and if you

4072
02:33:27,510 --> 02:33:25,840
don't

4073
02:33:29,510 --> 02:33:27,520
then that means that you do have the

4074
02:33:32,830 --> 02:33:29,520
technology and you have been

4075
02:33:34,710 --> 02:33:32,840
uh you know exploiting you know the the

4076
02:33:36,389 --> 02:33:34,720
taxpayers and so it's a really

4077
02:33:38,710 --> 02:33:36,399
interesting thing that his company is

4078
02:33:40,389 --> 02:33:38,720
has started doing and just the fact that

4079
02:33:43,110 --> 02:33:40,399
they were able to actually find

4080
02:33:44,070 --> 02:33:43,120
little mechanical gears on the inside of

4081
02:33:48,389 --> 02:33:44,080
these orbs

4082
02:33:50,389 --> 02:33:48,399
is is pretty fascinating so adding on

4083
02:33:54,950 --> 02:33:50,399
top of fascinating

4084
02:33:58,870 --> 02:33:54,960
is nasa is right there it's right there

4085
02:33:59,990 --> 02:33:58,880
and let me just suggest i wish him the

4086
02:34:06,469 --> 02:34:00,000
best

4087
02:34:08,870 --> 02:34:06,479
i've spent you know since since this has

4088
02:34:12,389 --> 02:34:08,880
happened to us

4089
02:34:15,110 --> 02:34:12,399
at least the last 20 years of my life

4090
02:34:16,070 --> 02:34:15,120
just as i said in the beginning trying

4091
02:34:18,469 --> 02:34:16,080
to get help

4092
02:34:20,950 --> 02:34:18,479
and i've gone beyond all that because

4093
02:34:22,389 --> 02:34:20,960
that has not you know afforded us

4094
02:34:23,990 --> 02:34:22,399
whatever that means and i'm not even

4095
02:34:27,349 --> 02:34:24,000
sure that's possible

4096
02:34:30,389 --> 02:34:27,359
yeah but my reality is anytime

4097
02:34:31,590 --> 02:34:30,399
once i discovered where nasa is that's a

4098
02:34:34,870 --> 02:34:31,600
whole nother ballgame

4099
02:34:35,990 --> 02:34:34,880
that's a whole another ballgame and it's

4100
02:34:39,190 --> 02:34:36,000
a lifetime worth

4101
02:34:41,830 --> 02:34:39,200
study and it's uh i wish him the best

4102
02:34:43,190 --> 02:34:41,840
absolutely the best because something

4103
02:34:45,750 --> 02:34:43,200
else has got to give here

4104
02:34:49,030 --> 02:34:45,760
but i suggest we're now living in the

4105
02:34:50,870 --> 02:34:49,040
land of nasa again right here in alabama

4106
02:34:53,030 --> 02:34:50,880
huntsville is only a couple hours from

4107
02:34:56,710 --> 02:34:53,040
where we are and huntsville is

4108
02:35:00,070 --> 02:34:56,720
nasa but nasa really is new orleans

4109
02:35:04,870 --> 02:35:00,080
most people are not aware of that

4110
02:35:08,870 --> 02:35:04,880
so anybody who's involved in any of this

4111
02:35:11,590 --> 02:35:08,880
we're talking about a machine a machine

4112
02:35:12,309 --> 02:35:11,600
that seems to rule and have a whole lot

4113
02:35:15,590 --> 02:35:12,319
of

4114
02:35:18,230 --> 02:35:15,600
and doing what

4115
02:35:19,510 --> 02:35:18,240
in regards to any of this just a

4116
02:35:23,270 --> 02:35:19,520
suggestion

4117
02:35:26,309 --> 02:35:23,280
the idea again of we're we've been

4118
02:35:28,150 --> 02:35:26,319
telling people for the last 17 000 years

4119
02:35:31,270 --> 02:35:28,160
that would listen to us

4120
02:35:31,990 --> 02:35:31,280
we were orb ducted off of a street

4121
02:35:34,550 --> 02:35:32,000
corner

4122
02:35:35,990 --> 02:35:34,560
right with with another human being

4123
02:35:39,349 --> 02:35:36,000
there are three of us

4124
02:35:42,309 --> 02:35:39,359
involved in this experience and and

4125
02:35:44,630 --> 02:35:42,319
and and i and i have these i have

4126
02:35:46,550 --> 02:35:44,640
something going on with my body

4127
02:35:48,950 --> 02:35:46,560
that we don't know is not happening with

4128
02:35:51,750 --> 02:35:48,960
chad or with christina

4129
02:35:54,389 --> 02:35:51,760
right let me mention christina she came

4130
02:35:58,150 --> 02:35:54,399
back out of that experience that night

4131
02:36:01,270 --> 02:35:58,160
and very closely after that is pregnant

4132
02:36:04,630 --> 02:36:01,280
oh yeah i just realized we glazed over

4133
02:36:07,590 --> 02:36:04,640
your your ob the the arm

4134
02:36:08,550 --> 02:36:07,600
the object and we glazed over not glazed

4135
02:36:10,389 --> 02:36:08,560
but i mean

4136
02:36:12,309 --> 02:36:10,399
it's good to keep the story going along

4137
02:36:16,070 --> 02:36:12,319
but it also gives us some things to

4138
02:36:17,590 --> 02:36:16,080
to kind of come back to uh yeah so i i

4139
02:36:18,230 --> 02:36:17,600
mean to cut you off but i'm just like

4140
02:36:20,070 --> 02:36:18,240
i'm i'm

4141
02:36:21,270 --> 02:36:20,080
acknowledging that for the listeners

4142
02:36:23,510 --> 02:36:21,280
that are like wait

4143
02:36:24,710 --> 02:36:23,520
go back to we wouldn't hear about that

4144
02:36:28,630 --> 02:36:24,720
share with you all

4145
02:36:29,670 --> 02:36:28,640
christina's story oh absolutely not that

4146
02:36:33,429 --> 02:36:29,680
long

4147
02:36:34,550 --> 02:36:33,439
it's it's it's like all of it's not

4148
02:36:37,030 --> 02:36:34,560
bizarre

4149
02:36:38,150 --> 02:36:37,040
we love hearing what you said about

4150
02:36:41,270 --> 02:36:38,160
gentlemen

4151
02:36:41,990 --> 02:36:41,280
uh devaron i think is so fascinating

4152
02:36:45,349 --> 02:36:42,000
because

4153
02:36:46,790 --> 02:36:45,359
just yesterday who was just sharing that

4154
02:36:49,510 --> 02:36:46,800
with us

4155
02:36:50,630 --> 02:36:49,520
you two are so yummy on the phone i

4156
02:36:52,550 --> 02:36:50,640
can't tell

4157
02:36:53,670 --> 02:36:52,560
his voice is speaking not a lot of

4158
02:36:54,870 --> 02:36:53,680
people could tell

4159
02:36:57,030 --> 02:36:54,880
not a lot of people can tell the

4160
02:36:58,550 --> 02:36:57,040
difference between us yeah we we've

4161
02:36:59,750 --> 02:36:58,560
known each other since we were kids so

4162
02:37:02,309 --> 02:36:59,760
we kind of

4163
02:37:02,870 --> 02:37:02,319
it was it was joe who told that story

4164
02:37:06,070 --> 02:37:02,880
yeah

4165
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:06,080
no so so joe

4166
02:37:09,190 --> 02:37:08,319
the psychic you probably never knew you

4167
02:37:11,670 --> 02:37:09,200
were

4168
02:37:13,349 --> 02:37:11,680
just yesterday chad's sitting right here

4169
02:37:15,270 --> 02:37:13,359
i can't make any of this up

4170
02:37:17,429 --> 02:37:15,280
i was watching something out of about

4171
02:37:19,429 --> 02:37:17,439
new orleans a movie about new orleans

4172
02:37:20,550 --> 02:37:19,439
yeah and the main character's name was

4173
02:37:22,710 --> 02:37:20,560
devaron

4174
02:37:24,550 --> 02:37:22,720
i had to turn it off because i said i am

4175
02:37:25,510 --> 02:37:24,560
so sick of the fact they can't come up

4176
02:37:27,590 --> 02:37:25,520
with another name

4177
02:37:29,750 --> 02:37:27,600
every time you see anything to do with

4178
02:37:32,070 --> 02:37:29,760
louisiana oh the skeleton key

4179
02:37:33,510 --> 02:37:32,080
oh okay he's remembering the name of the

4180
02:37:37,910 --> 02:37:33,520
movie the skeleton key

4181
02:37:39,750 --> 02:37:37,920
skeleton yeah hudson kate hudson i think

4182
02:37:42,309 --> 02:37:39,760
star of this thing or whatever

4183
02:37:43,590 --> 02:37:42,319
and i'm like i tried to watch it but as

4184
02:37:45,750 --> 02:37:43,600
soon as i found out

4185
02:37:47,510 --> 02:37:45,760
that's the character's name i'm like

4186
02:37:48,550 --> 02:37:47,520
they can't come up with a better name

4187
02:37:51,670 --> 02:37:48,560
because you can't get a

4188
02:37:53,270 --> 02:37:51,680
better name than devaron yeah

4189
02:37:54,950 --> 02:37:53,280
for every character in a movie and i

4190
02:37:55,990 --> 02:37:54,960
can't believe you just said that name

4191
02:37:58,630 --> 02:37:56,000
that is just too

4192
02:38:00,150 --> 02:37:58,640
crazy he's chad's rubbing his head right

4193
02:38:03,590 --> 02:38:00,160
now like what

4194
02:38:03,910 --> 02:38:03,600
so if i might because christina's story

4195
02:38:07,030 --> 02:38:03,920
is

4196
02:38:08,950 --> 02:38:07,040
so different in mine

4197
02:38:11,270 --> 02:38:08,960
and chad's and mine is so different than

4198
02:38:14,150 --> 02:38:11,280
chad's

4199
02:38:17,110 --> 02:38:14,160
her story and we're sticking with it is

4200
02:38:22,790 --> 02:38:19,910
christina let's back up before the

4201
02:38:25,429 --> 02:38:22,800
abduction night

4202
02:38:27,190 --> 02:38:25,439
i don't know how much time prior to that

4203
02:38:28,150 --> 02:38:27,200
that this happened but i'm not thinking

4204
02:38:29,750 --> 02:38:28,160
too long

4205
02:38:32,550 --> 02:38:29,760
but again i don't want to exaggerate and

4206
02:38:34,950 --> 02:38:32,560
i'm not trying to fill in the blanks

4207
02:38:36,950 --> 02:38:34,960
she had shared with me and i think i'm

4208
02:38:39,270 --> 02:38:36,960
the only person she told this to

4209
02:38:41,030 --> 02:38:39,280
and the reason why i feel like i've

4210
02:38:43,190 --> 02:38:41,040
never actually asked her

4211
02:38:44,469 --> 02:38:43,200
but i think the only reason she told me

4212
02:38:48,070 --> 02:38:44,479
this truth

4213
02:38:51,910 --> 02:38:49,670
can't go around and just tell people

4214
02:38:52,389 --> 02:38:51,920
what she dropped on me that i'm about to

4215
02:38:55,510 --> 02:38:52,399
tell you

4216
02:38:57,910 --> 02:38:55,520
all yeah and ultimately chad

4217
02:38:59,349 --> 02:38:57,920
okay so here's her story and she's stuck

4218
02:39:03,190 --> 02:38:59,359
with it

4219
02:39:06,389 --> 02:39:03,200
remember again she's 24 single no kids

4220
02:39:08,790 --> 02:39:06,399
tall model type pretty

4221
02:39:10,150 --> 02:39:08,800
long blonde hair she hooks up with a

4222
02:39:14,150 --> 02:39:10,160
dude for a minute

4223
02:39:16,870 --> 02:39:14,160
his name is will i call him dark boy

4224
02:39:17,190 --> 02:39:16,880
he's her he's he's adorable but he is

4225
02:39:20,630 --> 02:39:17,200
her

4226
02:39:23,110 --> 02:39:20,640
polar opposite he got long black hair

4227
02:39:25,910 --> 02:39:23,120
and he's got darkness about him and

4228
02:39:29,110 --> 02:39:25,920
there ain't nothing dark about christina

4229
02:39:29,910 --> 02:39:29,120
so the minute they get together i'm like

4230
02:39:32,150 --> 02:39:29,920
well

4231
02:39:33,830 --> 02:39:32,160
pretty little pair but man talk about

4232
02:39:36,790 --> 02:39:33,840
opposites now chad and i are pretty

4233
02:39:38,070 --> 02:39:36,800
opposites but there's enough about us

4234
02:39:40,150 --> 02:39:38,080
grandpa and i same name

4235
02:39:41,830 --> 02:39:40,160
you know i mean there's enough about us

4236
02:39:44,230 --> 02:39:41,840
that seemed to keep us in a

4237
02:39:45,750 --> 02:39:44,240
interesting connection i didn't see it

4238
02:39:50,389 --> 02:39:45,760
with those two

4239
02:39:52,070 --> 02:39:50,399
so she dates him like a minute

4240
02:39:54,870 --> 02:39:52,080
when she decides that she's ready to

4241
02:39:57,750 --> 02:39:54,880
move on she decides we're gonna do it

4242
02:39:58,870 --> 02:39:57,760
and i i'm kind of paraphrasing all this

4243
02:40:02,790 --> 02:39:58,880
she's gonna

4244
02:40:04,550 --> 02:40:02,800
heart-to-heart with him

4245
02:40:06,870 --> 02:40:04,560
and she needs to see other people she

4246
02:40:09,110 --> 02:40:06,880
wants to date so she chooses an

4247
02:40:09,910 --> 02:40:09,120
afternoon she lived in a duplex at the

4248
02:40:11,910 --> 02:40:09,920
time

4249
02:40:12,950 --> 02:40:11,920
she lived in a place called alger's

4250
02:40:17,590 --> 02:40:12,960
point

4251
02:40:18,389 --> 02:40:17,600
mississippi river from the french

4252
02:40:20,230 --> 02:40:18,399
quarter

4253
02:40:23,190 --> 02:40:20,240
you got to either have a car to get back

4254
02:40:26,870 --> 02:40:23,200
to the quarter or you take the ferry

4255
02:40:29,269 --> 02:40:26,880
it's how you tr or bus whatever yeah

4256
02:40:30,150 --> 02:40:29,279
she has a car but a lot of times you

4257
02:40:32,070 --> 02:40:30,160
know she'd

4258
02:40:34,710 --> 02:40:32,080
leave her car at home and she'd bury or

4259
02:40:36,790 --> 02:40:34,720
whatever but most of the time she drove

4260
02:40:38,150 --> 02:40:36,800
she lives in a duplex she lives all by

4261
02:40:42,389 --> 02:40:38,160
herself with maddie

4262
02:40:45,429 --> 02:40:42,399
maddie was her pitbull mix baby

4263
02:40:46,389 --> 02:40:45,439
so she decides she needs to move on from

4264
02:40:47,910 --> 02:40:46,399
will

4265
02:40:49,990 --> 02:40:47,920
she decides she's going to do it in a

4266
02:40:52,070 --> 02:40:50,000
polite way because she's very polite

4267
02:40:53,990 --> 02:40:52,080
she hasn't come over to the duplex

4268
02:40:57,830 --> 02:40:54,000
they're standing on her front porch

4269
02:41:01,750 --> 02:40:57,840
it's broad daylight now she's a very

4270
02:41:04,550 --> 02:41:01,760
touchy feely she likes it she loves you

4271
02:41:05,830 --> 02:41:04,560
if she don't she don't play with you

4272
02:41:08,070 --> 02:41:05,840
yeah so

4273
02:41:10,309 --> 02:41:08,080
she likes will she doesn't want to hurt

4274
02:41:13,510 --> 02:41:10,319
him she just needs to get on with it

4275
02:41:16,710 --> 02:41:13,520
so they're having this i call it the

4276
02:41:18,790 --> 02:41:16,720
i like your butt story

4277
02:41:20,230 --> 02:41:18,800
she decides we're going to have this

4278
02:41:21,670 --> 02:41:20,240
little pow wow

4279
02:41:23,349 --> 02:41:21,680
and you know she's going to get on with

4280
02:41:24,550 --> 02:41:23,359
it she says they're standing on the

4281
02:41:26,790 --> 02:41:24,560
front porch

4282
02:41:28,389 --> 02:41:26,800
they are face to face and i know her so

4283
02:41:29,190 --> 02:41:28,399
i know she's telling the truth i mean

4284
02:41:32,389 --> 02:41:29,200
we're talking

4285
02:41:34,389 --> 02:41:32,399
maybe inches apart base she

4286
02:41:36,389 --> 02:41:34,399
says as she begins to give him this i

4287
02:41:38,950 --> 02:41:36,399
like your butt story

4288
02:41:40,309 --> 02:41:38,960
she says she can feel and see him

4289
02:41:42,790 --> 02:41:40,319
changing

4290
02:41:44,790 --> 02:41:42,800
first of all emotionally and he's doing

4291
02:41:46,389 --> 02:41:44,800
it all very controlled

4292
02:41:48,070 --> 02:41:46,399
but this is her story and she's sticking

4293
02:41:49,670 --> 02:41:48,080
with it and i guarantee you she don't

4294
02:41:52,070 --> 02:41:49,680
lie

4295
02:41:53,429 --> 02:41:52,080
in fact she won't she's never i'm not

4296
02:41:57,190 --> 02:41:53,439
aware of her telling anybody

4297
02:41:57,590 --> 02:41:57,200
else she says he turned into a [\h__\h]

4298
02:42:00,870 --> 02:41:57,600
wolf

4299
02:42:01,990 --> 02:42:00,880
those are her words right in front of

4300
02:42:04,630 --> 02:42:02,000
her face

4301
02:42:06,070 --> 02:42:04,640
she said she's her head snapped away

4302
02:42:08,070 --> 02:42:06,080
from it

4303
02:42:09,910 --> 02:42:08,080
instantly and i knew exactly what she

4304
02:42:12,790 --> 02:42:09,920
was saying because when i saw that

4305
02:42:14,710 --> 02:42:12,800
that that that i can't even describe

4306
02:42:15,269 --> 02:42:14,720
whatever we saw in hammond the first

4307
02:42:17,910 --> 02:42:15,279
time

4308
02:42:19,910 --> 02:42:17,920
up in the sky that filled the sky it was

4309
02:42:21,830 --> 02:42:19,920
so big i couldn't look at it my head

4310
02:42:23,590 --> 02:42:21,840
flipped away and i looked right at chad

4311
02:42:25,590 --> 02:42:23,600
right that's happening

4312
02:42:27,670 --> 02:42:25,600
because i was in such shock that's what

4313
02:42:31,830 --> 02:42:27,680
she did her head turned away

4314
02:42:33,030 --> 02:42:31,840
instantly she her head turns back she's

4315
02:42:35,910 --> 02:42:33,040
right there in his face

4316
02:42:36,630 --> 02:42:35,920
he must have shifted human again very

4317
02:42:39,750 --> 02:42:36,640
quickly

4318
02:42:41,510 --> 02:42:39,760
and shifted a second time she said when

4319
02:42:42,870 --> 02:42:41,520
he did it the second time they are

4320
02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:42,880
eyeball to eyeball and she

4321
02:42:49,670 --> 02:42:46,000
said you just you just turned into a

4322
02:42:52,550 --> 02:42:49,680
[\h__\h] wolf and she said he responded

4323
02:42:55,590 --> 02:42:52,560
in a very startled voice

4324
02:42:59,349 --> 02:42:55,600
you saw that he acknowledged no

4325
02:43:02,870 --> 02:42:59,359
but she saw he acknowledged it okay

4326
02:43:05,910 --> 02:43:02,880
dude yeah

4327
02:43:10,309 --> 02:43:05,920
what does that mean is he

4328
02:43:12,550 --> 02:43:10,319
is he is he uh okay i i mean

4329
02:43:13,510 --> 02:43:12,560
sorry i don't mean to interrupt but like

4330
02:43:16,790 --> 02:43:13,520
it no

4331
02:43:20,230 --> 02:43:16,800
interrupt is is is he anyway

4332
02:43:21,910 --> 02:43:20,240
connected to native american blood in

4333
02:43:23,750 --> 02:43:21,920
any way cause i mean there's so many so

4334
02:43:26,790 --> 02:43:23,760
much folklore around

4335
02:43:27,269 --> 02:43:26,800
the descendants of of of animals

4336
02:43:29,590 --> 02:43:27,279
different

4337
02:43:31,750 --> 02:43:29,600
you know eagles and like you know just

4338
02:43:35,349 --> 02:43:31,760
wolves as well as like a big thing

4339
02:43:36,630 --> 02:43:35,359
beavers bears louisiana it's the

4340
02:43:38,550 --> 02:43:36,640
rougarou

4341
02:43:41,110 --> 02:43:38,560
and they have a big festival now in

4342
02:43:44,230 --> 02:43:41,120
honor of the guru

4343
02:43:46,150 --> 02:43:44,240
werewolf yep roof crew and you know

4344
02:43:49,349 --> 02:43:46,160
again pronunciation varies because we're

4345
02:43:53,910 --> 02:43:49,359
talking cajon and we're talking

4346
02:43:56,870 --> 02:43:53,920
yeah and so so that we are aware of

4347
02:43:58,950 --> 02:43:56,880
we also had discovered that his mom chad

4348
02:44:01,190 --> 02:43:58,960
says mama i thought grandmother but

4349
02:44:04,389 --> 02:44:01,200
whatever the case may be his female

4350
02:44:07,590 --> 02:44:04,399
elder was a swamp witch so

4351
02:44:11,349 --> 02:44:07,600
wow and the story goes that the

4352
02:44:12,469 --> 02:44:11,359
the guru would be around the swamp witch

4353
02:44:15,190 --> 02:44:12,479
or they would be like

4354
02:44:16,309 --> 02:44:15,200
a co-partner kind of partner or

4355
02:44:19,429 --> 02:44:16,319
subservient

4356
02:44:22,630 --> 02:44:19,439
this one which whatever the case may be

4357
02:44:24,469 --> 02:44:22,640
whatever the case may be okay i've never

4358
02:44:26,790 --> 02:44:24,479
heard of the term swamp witch but

4359
02:44:28,950 --> 02:44:26,800
i feel like that's gotta be like there's

4360
02:44:29,910 --> 02:44:28,960
an interesting little documentary on the

4361
02:44:33,030 --> 02:44:29,920
on the roof

4362
02:44:33,510 --> 02:44:33,040
yeah and uh yeah it's a it's a pretty

4363
02:44:36,389 --> 02:44:33,520
cool

4364
02:44:37,190 --> 02:44:36,399
story yeah i'm i want to i want to know

4365
02:44:40,389 --> 02:44:37,200
all about that

4366
02:44:42,870 --> 02:44:40,399
that sounds interesting yeah yeah yes

4367
02:44:44,790 --> 02:44:42,880
and up until this coded business

4368
02:44:46,389 --> 02:44:44,800
their festival was slam bang and they

4369
02:44:47,590 --> 02:44:46,399
were they wanted us to come there the

4370
02:44:50,389 --> 02:44:47,600
guy that

4371
02:44:52,070 --> 02:44:50,399
this wealthy dude decided to start

4372
02:44:54,950 --> 02:44:52,080
acknowledging this

4373
02:44:57,030 --> 02:44:54,960
folklore that most don't see his

4374
02:44:59,590 --> 02:44:57,040
folklore in that part of the country

4375
02:45:00,790 --> 02:44:59,600
yeah and and he put his money where his

4376
02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:00,800
mouth was and they

4377
02:45:05,510 --> 02:45:03,120
they started creating this festival this

4378
02:45:08,309 --> 02:45:05,520
town festival

4379
02:45:09,269 --> 02:45:08,319
honoring this rougarou and everybody

4380
02:45:12,790 --> 02:45:09,279
shows up in

4381
02:45:13,510 --> 02:45:12,800
in costume and regalia so on and so

4382
02:45:16,389 --> 02:45:13,520
forth

4383
02:45:17,590 --> 02:45:16,399
somewhere somewhere around halloween but

4384
02:45:19,269 --> 02:45:17,600
prior to halloween

4385
02:45:20,870 --> 02:45:19,279
where the whole town gets involved in

4386
02:45:23,830 --> 02:45:20,880
this but he

4387
02:45:25,269 --> 02:45:23,840
uh the whole objective supposedly is to

4388
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:25,279
build money

4389
02:45:29,349 --> 02:45:28,240
to to generate money to uh build the

4390
02:45:32,710 --> 02:45:29,359
swamp like the

4391
02:45:35,910 --> 02:45:32,720
uh the what the hayes

4392
02:45:38,230 --> 02:45:35,920
all of the surrounding uh land

4393
02:45:39,030 --> 02:45:38,240
yeah like the wetlands the wetlands

4394
02:45:40,150 --> 02:45:39,040
thank you

4395
02:45:42,150 --> 02:45:40,160
yeah yeah they're like a really

4396
02:45:44,790 --> 02:45:42,160
important ecosystem uh that

4397
02:45:46,469 --> 02:45:44,800
just really yeah it's like the the

4398
02:45:49,190 --> 02:45:46,479
ground zero uh we have a lot

4399
02:45:49,910 --> 02:45:49,200
of that in texas as well uh your galaxy

4400
02:45:52,389 --> 02:45:49,920
and all that

4401
02:45:54,469 --> 02:45:52,399
so dude you know we've never met him but

4402
02:45:57,269 --> 02:45:54,479
we contacted him while we were

4403
02:45:59,269 --> 02:45:57,279
before we moved sorry back to louisiana

4404
02:46:01,510 --> 02:45:59,279
about the time that the book was

4405
02:46:03,269 --> 02:46:01,520
we knew the book was going to come out

4406
02:46:06,469 --> 02:46:03,279
our little book and so on

4407
02:46:08,230 --> 02:46:06,479
and told him you know we had this new

4408
02:46:09,110 --> 02:46:08,240
little book being published and so on

4409
02:46:12,870 --> 02:46:09,120
and so forth

4410
02:46:14,870 --> 02:46:12,880
and he was so generous to us inviting us

4411
02:46:18,230 --> 02:46:14,880
to come to this festival

4412
02:46:20,710 --> 02:46:18,240
to vendor and to advertise our book

4413
02:46:21,510 --> 02:46:20,720
and you know really generous to us and

4414
02:46:23,510 --> 02:46:21,520
so on

4415
02:46:24,550 --> 02:46:23,520
we didn't make it and now of course

4416
02:46:27,190 --> 02:46:24,560
covet and so

4417
02:46:29,429 --> 02:46:27,200
all of that is somewhat i guess trying

4418
02:46:32,070 --> 02:46:29,439
to still happen but virtual and this and

4419
02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:32,080
that so we've never actually been there

4420
02:46:36,710 --> 02:46:35,279
but uh it's in home it's in houma

4421
02:46:39,510 --> 02:46:36,720
louisiana

4422
02:46:40,389 --> 02:46:39,520
homa i might mention if you all don't

4423
02:46:43,910 --> 02:46:40,399
know

4424
02:46:46,230 --> 02:46:43,920
hulma was the land birth and death

4425
02:46:48,389 --> 02:46:46,240
buried there if i'm not mistaken of

4426
02:46:53,910 --> 02:46:48,399
jesse marcel

4427
02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:53,920
story about roswell

4428
02:47:00,150 --> 02:46:57,120
right why does that sound familiar yeah

4429
02:47:02,550 --> 02:47:00,160
because his son jesse marcel jr who i

4430
02:47:03,269 --> 02:47:02,560
understand has passed or died in the

4431
02:47:06,309 --> 02:47:03,279
last

4432
02:47:08,230 --> 02:47:06,319
several years few years he was trying to

4433
02:47:12,230 --> 02:47:08,240
carry on you know dad's

4434
02:47:15,830 --> 02:47:12,240
legacy thank you legacy but jesse marcel

4435
02:47:18,790 --> 02:47:15,840
was the commander of the nuclear base

4436
02:47:20,710 --> 02:47:18,800
he was the hot shot of the nuclear base

4437
02:47:23,910 --> 02:47:20,720
in roswell for the

4438
02:47:27,670 --> 02:47:23,920
roswell crash and

4439
02:47:29,349 --> 02:47:27,680
palma is his home that's where he's born

4440
02:47:30,790 --> 02:47:29,359
very very interesting i did not know

4441
02:47:31,830 --> 02:47:30,800
that that's weird that's a strange

4442
02:47:34,070 --> 02:47:31,840
connection there

4443
02:47:35,269 --> 02:47:34,080
like very strange i just thought i'd

4444
02:47:39,030 --> 02:47:35,279
interject that

4445
02:47:40,950 --> 02:47:39,040
yeah so yeah so just as weird as us

4446
02:47:42,950 --> 02:47:40,960
introducing wolfie boy in the middle of

4447
02:47:46,070 --> 02:47:42,960
this ufo

4448
02:47:55,830 --> 02:47:46,080
yeah yeah well he's wolfie boy for me

4449
02:47:58,950 --> 02:47:57,510
listen and the little story we'll share

4450
02:48:01,030 --> 02:47:58,960
with you all before we part

4451
02:48:02,630 --> 02:48:01,040
that has that dude has shared with us

4452
02:48:06,309 --> 02:48:02,640
today i nicked him

4453
02:48:09,190 --> 02:48:06,319
him many years ago sparky so he wrote me

4454
02:48:09,830 --> 02:48:09,200
sparky's ufo story today and i just died

4455
02:48:12,870 --> 02:48:09,840
laughing

4456
02:48:14,389 --> 02:48:12,880
that's so great yeah he's sparky and

4457
02:48:16,790 --> 02:48:14,399
there's a very good reason why i gave

4458
02:48:20,150 --> 02:48:16,800
him that name

4459
02:48:23,510 --> 02:48:20,160
so so back to wolfy boy so

4460
02:48:25,030 --> 02:48:23,520
she's you know shared this with us okay

4461
02:48:27,349 --> 02:48:25,040
and like i said i think we're the only

4462
02:48:29,750 --> 02:48:27,359
ones who know this she ain't around

4463
02:48:31,429 --> 02:48:29,760
advertising this kind of thing let me

4464
02:48:32,630 --> 02:48:31,439
also say she's the kind of chick where

4465
02:48:34,469 --> 02:48:32,640
she ain't going back

4466
02:48:36,150 --> 02:48:34,479
you know it's one thing when she wants

4467
02:48:36,469 --> 02:48:36,160
to part as friends it's never you scare

4468
02:48:38,550 --> 02:48:36,479
this

4469
02:48:39,830 --> 02:48:38,560
stuff and out of her and i'm pretty sure

4470
02:48:42,389 --> 02:48:39,840
she's done with you

4471
02:48:43,110 --> 02:48:42,399
yeah so it's not her intention to ever

4472
02:48:46,630 --> 02:48:43,120
want to

4473
02:48:49,990 --> 02:48:46,640
see it see him again or my understanding

4474
02:48:51,510 --> 02:48:50,000
okay so now we'll fast forward and as i

4475
02:48:54,870 --> 02:48:51,520
said this happened

4476
02:48:55,429 --> 02:48:54,880
relatively again in time frame shortly

4477
02:48:58,469 --> 02:48:55,439
before

4478
02:49:00,150 --> 02:48:58,479
we went poof or or abducted off that

4479
02:49:04,550 --> 02:49:00,160
street

4480
02:49:07,269 --> 02:49:04,560
now let me also mention before we lose

4481
02:49:09,269 --> 02:49:07,279
any more in this story that street is

4482
02:49:11,830 --> 02:49:09,279
called frenchman street

4483
02:49:12,710 --> 02:49:11,840
that this actually chad's regression

4484
02:49:15,910 --> 02:49:12,720
told him

4485
02:49:16,389 --> 02:49:15,920
that we were abducted on frenchman

4486
02:49:23,510 --> 02:49:16,399
street

4487
02:49:26,070 --> 02:49:23,520
yeah there was only like local kind of

4488
02:49:26,870 --> 02:49:26,080
it was more of a local i don't remember

4489
02:49:29,429 --> 02:49:26,880
nothing about

4490
02:49:30,630 --> 02:49:29,439
french street it was burped street back

4491
02:49:33,429 --> 02:49:30,640
in 97

4492
02:49:35,990 --> 02:49:33,439
yeah nothing about frenchman street well

4493
02:49:38,230 --> 02:49:36,000
let me just say this

4494
02:49:40,469 --> 02:49:38,240
frenchman street now is the new bourbon

4495
02:49:43,670 --> 02:49:40,479
right all the movies shows

4496
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:43,680
all the hot bars all the everything all

4497
02:49:47,150 --> 02:49:44,240
the good

4498
02:49:48,630 --> 02:49:47,160
music are on that street now that got

4499
02:49:51,030 --> 02:49:48,640
electrified

4500
02:49:52,309 --> 02:49:51,040
that's just interesting that's just

4501
02:49:54,710 --> 02:49:52,319
interesting to me

4502
02:49:55,590 --> 02:49:54,720
yeah because back in 87 it was dead it

4503
02:49:58,710 --> 02:49:55,600
was dark

4504
02:50:00,309 --> 02:49:58,720
and dead and now that's the only place

4505
02:50:02,230 --> 02:50:00,319
to go if you go to new orleans

4506
02:50:04,389 --> 02:50:02,240
interesting that's where you'll be

4507
02:50:06,710 --> 02:50:04,399
guided is that street where we

4508
02:50:09,830 --> 02:50:06,720
where we that's where the locals and the

4509
02:50:12,469 --> 02:50:09,840
and the tourists kind of meet

4510
02:50:15,349 --> 02:50:12,479
so with that said just interjecting that

4511
02:50:18,469 --> 02:50:15,359
back to christina her story

4512
02:50:21,990 --> 02:50:18,479
so so she got this wolfy boy experience

4513
02:50:26,630 --> 02:50:22,000
she done okay now next thing she knows

4514
02:50:30,469 --> 02:50:28,950
she says this is what she told me

4515
02:50:33,429 --> 02:50:30,479
happened to her

4516
02:50:34,389 --> 02:50:33,439
she claims she remembers semi because

4517
02:50:38,150 --> 02:50:34,399
she gets pretty

4518
02:50:40,309 --> 02:50:38,160
drowsy sounding as i get her to write

4519
02:50:43,590 --> 02:50:40,319
the story years later

4520
02:50:45,750 --> 02:50:43,600
her recall is not there right

4521
02:50:47,670 --> 02:50:45,760
she's indicating she's pretty much

4522
02:50:49,510 --> 02:50:47,680
agreeing with whatever i say well that's

4523
02:50:52,070 --> 02:50:49,520
not how we wanted this to go

4524
02:50:54,150 --> 02:50:52,080
yeah all right right but i'm

4525
02:50:56,070 --> 02:50:54,160
understanding because again the way she

4526
02:50:59,030 --> 02:50:56,080
responded to me when i saw her

4527
02:50:59,750 --> 02:50:59,040
two days after we went poof it was like

4528
02:51:02,309 --> 02:50:59,760
yeah i know

4529
02:51:03,269 --> 02:51:02,319
it happened i know it something happened

4530
02:51:06,389 --> 02:51:03,279
i know

4531
02:51:09,830 --> 02:51:06,399
but i'll just live with it

4532
02:51:13,429 --> 02:51:09,840
okay okay so

4533
02:51:15,910 --> 02:51:13,439
that when this happens to us

4534
02:51:17,670 --> 02:51:15,920
this is what she says she remembers she

4535
02:51:18,870 --> 02:51:17,680
says she has no memory of coming off the

4536
02:51:22,150 --> 02:51:18,880
street

4537
02:51:25,269 --> 02:51:22,160
just like i've said to you she remembers

4538
02:51:27,110 --> 02:51:25,279
semi the way i've described how that

4539
02:51:29,110 --> 02:51:27,120
night went down that hour and a half

4540
02:51:30,150 --> 02:51:29,120
we're out there no alcohol no drugs

4541
02:51:32,070 --> 02:51:30,160
nobody

4542
02:51:33,269 --> 02:51:32,080
and even if we did i mean an hour and a

4543
02:51:36,469 --> 02:51:33,279
half is not a

4544
02:51:37,429 --> 02:51:36,479
you know long time to it's not enough

4545
02:51:41,830 --> 02:51:37,439
time to

4546
02:51:45,670 --> 02:51:41,840
have anything like that right

4547
02:51:46,950 --> 02:51:45,680
and so she says that the next thing she

4548
02:51:48,710 --> 02:51:46,960
knows

4549
02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:48,720
is somewhere between three and four in

4550
02:51:52,790 --> 02:51:50,479
the morning now her last memory is

4551
02:51:54,710 --> 02:51:52,800
11-ish like chad and i

4552
02:51:56,469 --> 02:51:54,720
but from 11-ish until three or four in

4553
02:51:58,790 --> 02:51:56,479
the morning it's gone

4554
02:52:00,469 --> 02:51:58,800
she has nothing there's nothing there

4555
02:52:02,070 --> 02:52:00,479
but the next thing she knows she's

4556
02:52:05,750 --> 02:52:02,080
behind the steering wheel

4557
02:52:10,309 --> 02:52:05,760
of her moving car whoa what

4558
02:52:13,429 --> 02:52:10,319
right her car she says is moving slowly

4559
02:52:16,070 --> 02:52:13,439
and it hit a parked car

4560
02:52:17,670 --> 02:52:16,080
and she hit a parked car and it knocked

4561
02:52:21,910 --> 02:52:17,680
off her rear-view mirror

4562
02:52:23,990 --> 02:52:21,920
and she claims that's what jolted her to

4563
02:52:25,269 --> 02:52:24,000
she claims also that she's in another

4564
02:52:27,830 --> 02:52:25,279
section of the city

4565
02:52:28,950 --> 02:52:27,840
from where she parked the freaking car

4566
02:52:30,630 --> 02:52:28,960
that morning

4567
02:52:32,469 --> 02:52:30,640
she parked that car up the street from

4568
02:52:36,710 --> 02:52:32,479
our shop that morning

4569
02:52:40,550 --> 02:52:36,720
now she's miles away somewhere else

4570
02:52:44,150 --> 02:52:40,560
in her car insane yeah oh but

4571
02:52:47,429 --> 02:52:44,160
and again it gets better there's more

4572
02:52:50,630 --> 02:52:47,439
cheap backpack

4573
02:52:52,070 --> 02:52:50,640
she says the car seems to be driving

4574
02:52:55,269 --> 02:52:52,080
itself

4575
02:52:58,630 --> 02:52:55,279
and it's heading to wolfie boy's house

4576
02:53:00,870 --> 02:52:58,640
what oh [\h__\h] i can't make it up

4577
02:53:03,190 --> 02:53:00,880
i am not a good writer i could not make

4578
02:53:04,950 --> 02:53:03,200
this up even if it sounds like a lousy

4579
02:53:08,389 --> 02:53:04,960
story

4580
02:53:12,150 --> 02:53:08,399
you're a really good reader but you know

4581
02:53:17,510 --> 02:53:15,910
i mean now wolfie boy lives in the hood

4582
02:53:19,429 --> 02:53:17,520
he lives in a section of the city she

4583
02:53:21,910 --> 02:53:19,439
don't want to be at at three or four in

4584
02:53:24,550 --> 02:53:21,920
the morning

4585
02:53:26,630 --> 02:53:24,560
she says he lives in like a four-plex

4586
02:53:28,389 --> 02:53:26,640
like a big old house

4587
02:53:30,630 --> 02:53:28,399
you can almost see it like in some scary

4588
02:53:32,230 --> 02:53:30,640
movie that's been converted into like

4589
02:53:35,750 --> 02:53:32,240
four apartments

4590
02:53:36,790 --> 02:53:35,760
it's got a huge iron gate kind of thing

4591
02:53:39,750 --> 02:53:36,800
around it

4592
02:53:40,710 --> 02:53:39,760
it's sounds like normally is locked not

4593
02:53:43,990 --> 02:53:40,720
this morning

4594
02:53:44,710 --> 02:53:44,000
when she pulls up she says she gets out

4595
02:53:48,389 --> 02:53:44,720
of her car

4596
02:53:51,590 --> 02:53:48,399
she goes up through this open gate

4597
02:53:54,309 --> 02:53:51,600
that shouldn't be she goes up the steps

4598
02:53:56,710 --> 02:53:54,319
he's got the downstairs apartment she

4599
02:53:58,309 --> 02:53:56,720
said she gets up to the steps and is

4600
02:54:00,070 --> 02:53:58,319
i think he's got a screen door if i

4601
02:54:01,910 --> 02:54:00,080
understood correctly whatever the door

4602
02:54:04,830 --> 02:54:01,920
is open

4603
02:54:06,070 --> 02:54:04,840
excuse me she says he's sitting

4604
02:54:09,110 --> 02:54:06,080
underneath

4605
02:54:10,710 --> 02:54:09,120
a light like maybe a hanging lamp and

4606
02:54:12,710 --> 02:54:10,720
he's playing guitar

4607
02:54:13,750 --> 02:54:12,720
she said he stops playing the freaking

4608
02:54:15,910 --> 02:54:13,760
guitar

4609
02:54:17,429 --> 02:54:15,920
he sets it down and he looks at her and

4610
02:54:20,309 --> 02:54:17,439
he says either

4611
02:54:22,070 --> 02:54:20,319
we've been waiting for you or i've been

4612
02:54:24,309 --> 02:54:22,080
waiting for you

4613
02:54:25,510 --> 02:54:24,319
i think you're creepy pick your creepy

4614
02:54:28,550 --> 02:54:25,520
line

4615
02:54:31,590 --> 02:54:28,560
she says she goes in

4616
02:54:32,150 --> 02:54:31,600
the house now this is a woman who does

4617
02:54:35,910 --> 02:54:32,160
not

4618
02:54:38,230 --> 02:54:35,920
do these things she's she

4619
02:54:40,230 --> 02:54:38,240
this is what she lives for back in the

4620
02:54:43,110 --> 02:54:40,240
day when she's 24 and now we got

4621
02:54:44,469 --> 02:54:43,120
how many years since 97 23 years you can

4622
02:54:47,670 --> 02:54:44,479
do the math

4623
02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:47,680
got her masters in environmental science

4624
02:54:51,429 --> 02:54:50,000
has raised this amazing son who's now

4625
02:54:53,990 --> 02:54:51,439
got a degree running some

4626
02:54:56,389 --> 02:54:54,000
art museum something something i mean

4627
02:54:57,670 --> 02:54:56,399
she's she's created an amazing life for

4628
02:55:01,670 --> 02:54:57,680
herself

4629
02:55:02,710 --> 02:55:01,680
and yet she says and she goes into this

4630
02:55:05,269 --> 02:55:02,720
house

4631
02:55:07,030 --> 02:55:05,279
he puts that guitar down down and makes

4632
02:55:10,309 --> 02:55:07,040
that statement to her

4633
02:55:14,070 --> 02:55:10,319
she says she starts becoming

4634
02:55:15,830 --> 02:55:14,080
my word controlled hysteria

4635
02:55:17,830 --> 02:55:15,840
i don't remember ever seeing her cry

4636
02:55:19,990 --> 02:55:17,840
she's a very happy kind of

4637
02:55:21,030 --> 02:55:20,000
chick but she's also one of these black

4638
02:55:24,070 --> 02:55:21,040
and white to me

4639
02:55:24,710 --> 02:55:24,080
kind of chicks also yeah she her life

4640
02:55:27,830 --> 02:55:24,720
was

4641
02:55:30,230 --> 02:55:27,840
trying to save children and animals

4642
02:55:31,030 --> 02:55:30,240
that that she's lived her whole life for

4643
02:55:33,990 --> 02:55:31,040
this

4644
02:55:34,309 --> 02:55:34,000
the betterment of children and animals

4645
02:55:37,590 --> 02:55:34,319
and

4646
02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:37,600
environmental science

4647
02:55:41,590 --> 02:55:39,520
yeah so she's she's not somebody who

4648
02:55:43,670 --> 02:55:41,600
backs down very easily with that said to

4649
02:55:43,990 --> 02:55:43,680
you but she claims that she's standing

4650
02:55:47,030 --> 02:55:44,000
there

4651
02:55:50,070 --> 02:55:47,040
and she starts falling apart

4652
02:55:53,030 --> 02:55:50,080
my words at the seams

4653
02:55:53,990 --> 02:55:53,040
hysterical kind of controlled hysteria

4654
02:55:57,190 --> 02:55:54,000
she says he

4655
02:56:00,389 --> 02:55:57,200
guides her into a room

4656
02:56:02,469 --> 02:56:00,399
lays her down and she says she cried

4657
02:56:04,630 --> 02:56:02,479
herself to sleep

4658
02:56:06,630 --> 02:56:04,640
she said like and i'm i'm kind of

4659
02:56:08,630 --> 02:56:06,640
filling it in it feels to me like she

4660
02:56:10,150 --> 02:56:08,640
indicated like a couple hours

4661
02:56:11,670 --> 02:56:10,160
because she's getting there somewhere

4662
02:56:14,070 --> 02:56:11,680
three and four in the morning

4663
02:56:15,990 --> 02:56:14,080
yeah at this point now the sun is just

4664
02:56:17,990 --> 02:56:16,000
starting to rise so i'm kind of

4665
02:56:20,309 --> 02:56:18,000
filling that in she's been there

4666
02:56:23,269 --> 02:56:20,319
whatever time for the sun to rise

4667
02:56:25,190 --> 02:56:23,279
she said she wakes up she's dressed it

4668
02:56:26,950 --> 02:56:25,200
doesn't appear that he's done anything

4669
02:56:28,309 --> 02:56:26,960
to her and she said she got up and she

4670
02:56:29,670 --> 02:56:28,319
got the [\h__\h] out of there and she never

4671
02:56:31,190 --> 02:56:29,680
looked back

4672
02:56:33,110 --> 02:56:31,200
now that's her story and she's sticking

4673
02:56:36,070 --> 02:56:33,120
with it yeah

4674
02:56:37,830 --> 02:56:36,080
wow if i can finish the wolfy boy story

4675
02:56:41,990 --> 02:56:37,840
yeah he sounds like a creeper

4676
02:56:46,070 --> 02:56:42,000
dude we talking a powerful people

4677
02:56:50,870 --> 02:56:46,080
because this happened in 97.

4678
02:56:53,190 --> 02:56:50,880
now fast forward to 2001.

4679
02:56:54,389 --> 02:56:53,200
chad and i have come completely apart at

4680
02:57:01,510 --> 02:56:54,399
the seams

4681
02:57:03,429 --> 02:57:01,520
chad left me sorry

4682
02:57:05,990 --> 02:57:03,439
i stayed behind into the court in new

4683
02:57:09,030 --> 02:57:06,000
orleans chad left the state

4684
02:57:10,630 --> 02:57:09,040
and went to family

4685
02:57:13,030 --> 02:57:10,640
actually where we are now here in

4686
02:57:15,990 --> 02:57:13,040
alabama

4687
02:57:16,950 --> 02:57:16,000
we parted and i never imagined we'd come

4688
02:57:20,150 --> 02:57:16,960
back together

4689
02:57:21,269 --> 02:57:20,160
we absolutely came apart and then so

4690
02:57:23,590 --> 02:57:21,279
we're

4691
02:57:24,630 --> 02:57:23,600
interestingly enough three months apart

4692
02:57:29,429 --> 02:57:24,640
again

4693
02:57:32,469 --> 02:57:29,439
that's how long that duration took well

4694
02:57:34,070 --> 02:57:32,479
right while that's happening i'm

4695
02:57:37,429 --> 02:57:34,080
continuing to work

4696
02:57:39,510 --> 02:57:37,439
i'm on my own i'm

4697
02:57:41,269 --> 02:57:39,520
not doing well at all but i'm

4698
02:57:42,469 --> 02:57:41,279
maintaining my job and i'm not doing

4699
02:57:45,590 --> 02:57:42,479
well at all

4700
02:57:48,550 --> 02:57:45,600
i'm i'm coming apart and

4701
02:57:50,469 --> 02:57:48,560
i come out of work one day and strangely

4702
02:57:51,990 --> 02:57:50,479
enough the french quarter was packed

4703
02:57:53,670 --> 02:57:52,000
because you know we've told you that

4704
02:57:54,150 --> 02:57:53,680
night it happened to us there was nobody

4705
02:57:57,349 --> 02:57:54,160
there

4706
02:57:59,990 --> 02:57:57,359
yeah but on this day we got a normal day

4707
02:58:00,469 --> 02:58:00,000
it would appear it's beautiful it feels

4708
02:58:03,670 --> 02:58:00,479
like it's

4709
02:58:07,429 --> 02:58:03,680
april-ish somewhere in that time frame

4710
02:58:09,510 --> 02:58:07,439
fabulous weather unusual and i remember

4711
02:58:11,510 --> 02:58:09,520
like just breathing it in i can remember

4712
02:58:14,550 --> 02:58:11,520
that it was so

4713
02:58:17,990 --> 02:58:14,560
because quarter is hot and humid and

4714
02:58:20,309 --> 02:58:18,000
crazy on this day it just felt light

4715
02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:20,319
lots of people strolling about i come

4716
02:58:24,389 --> 02:58:21,840
out of work

4717
02:58:25,269 --> 02:58:24,399
i'm off for the afternoon what have you

4718
02:58:27,910 --> 02:58:25,279
all of a sudden

4719
02:58:28,790 --> 02:58:27,920
somebody's yelling my name like across

4720
02:58:32,309 --> 02:58:28,800
the little crowd

4721
02:58:35,269 --> 02:58:32,319
and i'm like what and and i look

4722
02:58:36,389 --> 02:58:35,279
and there's this dude that i hadn't seen

4723
02:58:39,750 --> 02:58:36,399
in years

4724
02:58:40,550 --> 02:58:39,760
his name is rich rich is originally from

4725
02:58:42,710 --> 02:58:40,560
montauk

4726
02:58:44,150 --> 02:58:42,720
new york i don't know if you all know

4727
02:58:47,990 --> 02:58:44,160
anything about montauk

4728
02:58:51,429 --> 02:58:48,000
oh yeah yeah that's where he's from

4729
02:58:54,150 --> 02:58:51,439
uh-huh so we've

4730
02:58:55,750 --> 02:58:54,160
befriended each other years prior he's a

4731
02:58:58,150 --> 02:58:55,760
traveling artist

4732
02:59:00,070 --> 02:58:58,160
i'm pretty sure he's a freaking being

4733
02:59:02,550 --> 02:59:00,080
because i am not convinced he's human

4734
02:59:03,990 --> 02:59:02,560
he's almost like seven foot tall but did

4735
02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:04,000
you hear what chad just said

4736
02:59:11,830 --> 02:59:08,080
damn [\h__\h] oh and thinner than chad

4737
02:59:13,670 --> 02:59:11,840
he's a artist artiste and so

4738
02:59:15,590 --> 02:59:13,680
i hadn't seen him in years and but you

4739
02:59:16,630 --> 02:59:15,600
can't miss him over a crowd when you're

4740
02:59:20,230 --> 02:59:16,640
seven foot tall

4741
02:59:23,910 --> 02:59:20,240
yeah and he's yelling alta alta right

4742
02:59:27,190 --> 02:59:23,920
okay i'm like five four five five so

4743
02:59:27,990 --> 02:59:27,200
i see him i'm all lit up i'm so happy to

4744
02:59:31,190 --> 02:59:28,000
see him

4745
02:59:32,630 --> 02:59:31,200
we get together we hug we he says or

4746
02:59:35,510 --> 02:59:32,640
something or other let's get a drink

4747
02:59:36,630 --> 02:59:35,520
okay so we go to a little outdoor cafe

4748
02:59:38,790 --> 02:59:36,640
we're sitting down

4749
02:59:40,389 --> 02:59:38,800
we've just ordered i ordered a beer he

4750
02:59:43,910 --> 02:59:40,399
ordered a coke

4751
02:59:46,469 --> 02:59:43,920
as in coca-cola i thought odd okay

4752
02:59:48,070 --> 02:59:46,479
we'll have a drink he's rolling his

4753
02:59:49,910 --> 02:59:48,080
cigarette

4754
02:59:51,670 --> 02:59:49,920
now as he's got his little box out and

4755
02:59:54,309 --> 02:59:51,680
he's rolling his cigarette

4756
02:59:55,510 --> 02:59:54,319
we get our coke get the beer next thing

4757
02:59:57,830 --> 02:59:55,520
i know

4758
02:59:59,349 --> 02:59:57,840
he's learning that chad and i have split

4759
03:00:02,309 --> 02:59:59,359
now he's acting

4760
03:00:03,110 --> 03:00:02,319
very upset because nobody could believe

4761
03:00:06,389 --> 03:00:03,120
it's not a part of

4762
03:00:08,309 --> 03:00:06,399
the timeline you guys

4763
03:00:10,389 --> 03:00:08,319
it's not a part of the it's not a part

4764
03:00:12,230 --> 03:00:10,399
of the projected timeline you guys need

4765
03:00:14,710 --> 03:00:12,240
to get back on the timeline

4766
03:00:15,990 --> 03:00:14,720
of you guys need to be together right

4767
03:00:17,110 --> 03:00:16,000
like we were talking about in the first

4768
03:00:18,870 --> 03:00:17,120
episode like

4769
03:00:20,150 --> 03:00:18,880
it was meant to be you're supposed to be

4770
03:00:23,110 --> 03:00:20,160
together

4771
03:00:24,630 --> 03:00:23,120
i mean because just nobody could

4772
03:00:27,030 --> 03:00:24,640
understand no because

4773
03:00:27,830 --> 03:00:27,040
i mean you know it wasn't we had the

4774
03:00:29,590 --> 03:00:27,840
relationship

4775
03:00:32,070 --> 03:00:29,600
you know alta didn't have a girls night

4776
03:00:34,550 --> 03:00:32,080
out and i didn't have a guy's night out

4777
03:00:41,190 --> 03:00:34,560
you know no chad likes the girls and we

4778
03:00:44,790 --> 03:00:43,590
as ridiculous as it may sound you know

4779
03:00:47,269 --> 03:00:44,800
yeah we're known as

4780
03:00:49,030 --> 03:00:47,279
chilta i was referring to like that the

4781
03:00:49,750 --> 03:00:49,040
the men in black story from the first

4782
03:00:51,590 --> 03:00:49,760
episode

4783
03:00:53,670 --> 03:00:51,600
where it was like hey so we're

4784
03:00:54,710 --> 03:00:53,680
interjecting we're interjecting into

4785
03:00:58,120 --> 03:00:54,720
this timeline

4786
03:00:59,510 --> 03:00:58,130
to to make you guys be together

4787
03:01:01,590 --> 03:00:59,520
[Music]

4788
03:01:02,630 --> 03:01:01,600
oh i got you from the moment you smoked

4789
03:01:06,150 --> 03:01:02,640
sir okay

4790
03:01:09,670 --> 03:01:06,160
absolutely we on the same page

4791
03:01:14,070 --> 03:01:09,680
awesome so so

4792
03:01:15,990 --> 03:01:14,080
as as as i'm feeling his

4793
03:01:17,190 --> 03:01:16,000
i hate the word compassion but as i'm

4794
03:01:21,590 --> 03:01:17,200
feeling his

4795
03:01:22,070 --> 03:01:21,600
empathy towards me and shock it seemed

4796
03:01:25,349 --> 03:01:22,080
over

4797
03:01:26,550 --> 03:01:25,359
our separation all of a sudden it was

4798
03:01:29,830 --> 03:01:26,560
like you know that old

4799
03:01:33,030 --> 03:01:29,840
butterfly his attention shifted

4800
03:01:33,990 --> 03:01:33,040
instantly and he no longer seemed to

4801
03:01:36,790 --> 03:01:34,000
give a [\h__\h] about

4802
03:01:38,710 --> 03:01:36,800
chad and alta and our woes he looks at

4803
03:01:42,309 --> 03:01:38,720
me right in the face and he says

4804
03:01:45,510 --> 03:01:42,319
hey have you heard about will

4805
03:01:47,349 --> 03:01:45,520
i'm like first of all

4806
03:01:49,269 --> 03:01:47,359
i have to breathe because i can't

4807
03:01:50,710 --> 03:01:49,279
believe because i'm dying over telling

4808
03:01:52,630 --> 03:01:50,720
him about chad and alton not being

4809
03:01:53,990 --> 03:01:52,640
together and i'm dying

4810
03:01:56,230 --> 03:01:54,000
and then all of a sudden like i said

4811
03:01:57,590 --> 03:01:56,240
butterfly now i've got to shift

4812
03:01:59,830 --> 03:01:57,600
instantly

4813
03:02:00,950 --> 03:01:59,840
and and take in what he's just said to

4814
03:02:04,710 --> 03:02:00,960
me hey

4815
03:02:07,910 --> 03:02:04,720
have you heard about will well

4816
03:02:11,190 --> 03:02:07,920
will i say to him whip

4817
03:02:14,630 --> 03:02:11,200
dark boy are you talking about dark boy

4818
03:02:15,269 --> 03:02:14,640
i didn't know you knew well and then i'm

4819
03:02:16,950 --> 03:02:15,279
thinking

4820
03:02:19,269 --> 03:02:16,960
okay because i'm trying to put some

4821
03:02:21,670 --> 03:02:19,279
logic in here someplace some rationale

4822
03:02:23,030 --> 03:02:21,680
somewhere so that's how my mind is

4823
03:02:26,389 --> 03:02:23,040
working and all these different

4824
03:02:28,550 --> 03:02:26,399
traps and so then i'm saying well [\h__\h]

4825
03:02:29,830 --> 03:02:28,560
you know will was a dark boy and kind of

4826
03:02:32,950 --> 03:02:29,840
a freak and mission

4827
03:02:34,710 --> 03:02:32,960
and and and you know rich is a artist

4828
03:02:36,790 --> 03:02:34,720
and a freak from montauk and

4829
03:02:38,550 --> 03:02:36,800
you know i guess freaks no freaks

4830
03:02:40,389 --> 03:02:38,560
whatever yeah

4831
03:02:42,230 --> 03:02:40,399
but i'm telling you we were not a circle

4832
03:02:44,389 --> 03:02:42,240
who understood each other we were not

4833
03:02:46,070 --> 03:02:44,399
friends that were partying together hung

4834
03:02:47,269 --> 03:02:46,080
with each other so him throwing that

4835
03:02:50,150 --> 03:02:47,279
name out at me

4836
03:02:52,710 --> 03:02:50,160
came out of nowhere out of left field so

4837
03:02:56,389 --> 03:02:52,720
finally i kind of you know get my

4838
03:02:57,830 --> 03:02:56,399
grip as best i could and i'm like

4839
03:03:00,230 --> 03:02:57,840
and just looking at him with my mouth i

4840
03:03:03,510 --> 03:03:00,240
think strangely enough hanging over

4841
03:03:05,190 --> 03:03:03,520
and he responds with yeah he's going

4842
03:03:05,990 --> 03:03:05,200
around telling he's gone around telling

4843
03:03:07,830 --> 03:03:06,000
everybody

4844
03:03:11,349 --> 03:03:07,840
he got to catch a bus and get out of

4845
03:03:13,670 --> 03:03:11,359
town because the aliens are after him

4846
03:03:14,950 --> 03:03:13,680
now that's how he said it to me what now

4847
03:03:18,070 --> 03:03:14,960
what

4848
03:03:19,190 --> 03:03:18,080
just effing say that he did not just say

4849
03:03:23,349 --> 03:03:19,200
that

4850
03:03:26,309 --> 03:03:23,359
conversation

4851
03:03:27,590 --> 03:03:26,319
to i don't know go wherever it's going

4852
03:03:31,349 --> 03:03:27,600
well this is where it went

4853
03:03:33,670 --> 03:03:31,359
he's gotta go he's gotta go he stands

4854
03:03:34,469 --> 03:03:33,680
up he puts his little tobacco box back

4855
03:03:36,550 --> 03:03:34,479
together

4856
03:03:38,950 --> 03:03:36,560
he doesn't even drink his freaking coke

4857
03:03:42,550 --> 03:03:38,960
again i don't remember drinking my beer

4858
03:03:44,389 --> 03:03:42,560
and he's got to go wow so after after

4859
03:03:45,510 --> 03:03:44,399
hearing that you guys have split up he's

4860
03:03:48,950 --> 03:03:45,520
like oh [\h__\h] i

4861
03:03:51,710 --> 03:03:48,960
wait we gotta we gotta go i gotta go

4862
03:03:54,469 --> 03:03:51,720
is that after before that after he

4863
03:03:56,389 --> 03:03:54,479
asserts to me have i heard about will

4864
03:03:58,389 --> 03:03:56,399
and the aliens are after him yeah he's

4865
03:04:01,590 --> 03:03:58,399
got to go right

4866
03:04:03,830 --> 03:04:01,600
so we hug goodbye

4867
03:04:05,510 --> 03:04:03,840
but again strangely enough my mouth's

4868
03:04:08,790 --> 03:04:05,520
hanging open which is very unusual as

4869
03:04:12,070 --> 03:04:08,800
you can tell i talk a lot

4870
03:04:13,030 --> 03:04:12,080
at that point now i go beyond being

4871
03:04:16,550 --> 03:04:13,040
puzzled

4872
03:04:18,230 --> 03:04:16,560
confused and as i said a few times

4873
03:04:21,269 --> 03:04:18,240
before i'm pissed

4874
03:04:23,030 --> 03:04:21,279
i'm very pissed i'm angry i feel this

4875
03:04:25,349 --> 03:04:23,040
like overwhelming

4876
03:04:26,230 --> 03:04:25,359
i'm looking around for cameras i know

4877
03:04:29,190 --> 03:04:26,240
i'm on some

4878
03:04:30,710 --> 03:04:29,200
freaking candid camera show and the

4879
03:04:32,630 --> 03:04:30,720
joke's on me

4880
03:04:34,550 --> 03:04:32,640
that's awesome she's being punk i'm

4881
03:04:36,630 --> 03:04:34,560
being pumped

4882
03:04:38,710 --> 03:04:36,640
that's all that i could grasp that's the

4883
03:04:40,150 --> 03:04:38,720
only thing that's the only thing that i

4884
03:04:43,510 --> 03:04:40,160
could grasp

4885
03:04:46,389 --> 03:04:43,520
and so yeah that's the that's the

4886
03:04:48,469 --> 03:04:46,399
christina story kind of wow first story

4887
03:04:50,630 --> 03:04:48,479
and then the weirdness of that

4888
03:04:52,309 --> 03:04:50,640
and then my experience is totally

4889
03:04:54,870 --> 03:04:52,319
different than either one of them

4890
03:04:55,990 --> 03:04:54,880
yeah wow there's so much to break down

4891
03:04:59,030 --> 03:04:56,000
you guys like

4892
03:05:01,670 --> 03:04:59,040
i know we're ending the near uh our

4893
03:05:02,150 --> 03:05:01,680
three hour mark and like i kind of just

4894
03:05:04,710 --> 03:05:02,160
want to

4895
03:05:05,510 --> 03:05:04,720
really quick just like for a moment

4896
03:05:08,309 --> 03:05:05,520
realize

4897
03:05:08,870 --> 03:05:08,319
how much we've covered tonight and um

4898
03:05:11,910 --> 03:05:08,880
i'm just

4899
03:05:12,389 --> 03:05:11,920
man there's so much so many questions i

4900
03:05:15,670 --> 03:05:12,399
have

4901
03:05:16,870 --> 03:05:15,680
and uh man i'm i'm so intrigued by you

4902
03:05:19,190 --> 03:05:16,880
guys a story i'm so

4903
03:05:21,110 --> 03:05:19,200
thankful for you guys uh spending the

4904
03:05:24,469 --> 03:05:21,120
time and sharing with us

4905
03:05:27,590 --> 03:05:24,479
and our listeners uh man i i'm like

4906
03:05:31,190 --> 03:05:27,600
i'm starting like uh chad

4907
03:05:33,750 --> 03:05:31,200
the story your experience with the blue

4908
03:05:35,910 --> 03:05:33,760
alien not just the blue being but but

4909
03:05:39,110 --> 03:05:35,920
the multiple beings and the

4910
03:05:41,030 --> 03:05:39,120
the the uh spacecraft i mean man there's

4911
03:05:41,670 --> 03:05:41,040
so much detail in there that i feel like

4912
03:05:43,830 --> 03:05:41,680
i didn't

4913
03:05:45,510 --> 03:05:43,840
get to but that was mind-blowing yeah

4914
03:05:47,510 --> 03:05:45,520
honestly like it's kind of good because

4915
03:05:49,030 --> 03:05:47,520
we can come back to that

4916
03:05:50,630 --> 03:05:49,040
because i feel like it's going to be

4917
03:05:52,230 --> 03:05:50,640
like okay let's tell your story

4918
03:05:53,990 --> 03:05:52,240
and then and then let's break it down

4919
03:05:55,510 --> 03:05:54,000
afterwards yeah i don't know

4920
03:05:57,830 --> 03:05:55,520
there's no structure to this story it's

4921
03:05:59,750 --> 03:05:57,840
literally just a conversation that you

4922
03:06:00,950 --> 03:05:59,760
and us are having it's like our

4923
03:06:02,550 --> 03:06:00,960
listeners are

4924
03:06:04,070 --> 03:06:02,560
you guys that are listening it's just

4925
03:06:05,429 --> 03:06:04,080
like us sitting around a campfire

4926
03:06:08,790 --> 03:06:05,439
drinking beer like

4927
03:06:11,510 --> 03:06:08,800
we're there's no structure and uh that's

4928
03:06:13,030 --> 03:06:11,520
what we're so enjoying it's so wonderful

4929
03:06:15,429 --> 03:06:13,040
that's just what it feels like we're

4930
03:06:17,429 --> 03:06:15,439
around a campfire drinking a beer

4931
03:06:18,469 --> 03:06:17,439
absolutely no pressure just a

4932
03:06:22,469 --> 03:06:18,479
conversation

4933
03:06:24,630 --> 03:06:22,479
yeah yeah and and yeah you guys are just

4934
03:06:26,950 --> 03:06:24,640
such beautiful souls and just man uh

4935
03:06:29,030 --> 03:06:26,960
y'all are so open and willing to just

4936
03:06:30,710 --> 03:06:29,040
talk about your experience and and like

4937
03:06:33,110 --> 03:06:30,720
we said earlier like it's

4938
03:06:35,269 --> 03:06:33,120
for anyone else else out there that has

4939
03:06:38,230 --> 03:06:35,279
a has their own story

4940
03:06:39,030 --> 03:06:38,240
this is this this should be an example

4941
03:06:41,269 --> 03:06:39,040
of like hey

4942
03:06:42,309 --> 03:06:41,279
this stuff happens to a lot of other

4943
03:06:44,710 --> 03:06:42,319
people oh yeah

4944
03:06:46,230 --> 03:06:44,720
yeah absolutely i think that's the the

4945
03:06:46,950 --> 03:06:46,240
the message at the end of the day right

4946
03:06:48,790 --> 03:06:46,960
like

4947
03:06:50,790 --> 03:06:48,800
this is you guys are normal people

4948
03:06:52,070 --> 03:06:50,800
you've we've listened to you guys talk

4949
03:06:55,030 --> 03:06:52,080
for a lot of hours

4950
03:06:55,429 --> 03:06:55,040
and i can we can tell you're not crazy

4951
03:06:57,590 --> 03:06:55,439
okay

4952
03:06:59,190 --> 03:06:57,600
like you guys are like normal people

4953
03:07:01,349 --> 03:06:59,200
yeah we are

4954
03:07:02,630 --> 03:07:01,359
you know it's just crazy yeah y'all are

4955
03:07:04,630 --> 03:07:02,640
just such loving uh

4956
03:07:05,750 --> 03:07:04,640
you know passionate and and positive

4957
03:07:08,630 --> 03:07:05,760
people i can tell

4958
03:07:09,190 --> 03:07:08,640
just yeah it's uh it's it's it's great

4959
03:07:10,870 --> 03:07:09,200
to just

4960
03:07:13,269 --> 03:07:10,880
talk to you guys and just get to know

4961
03:07:14,389 --> 03:07:13,279
you i think most most shows are like hey

4962
03:07:16,309 --> 03:07:14,399
answer this question answer this

4963
03:07:18,389 --> 03:07:16,319
question uh hopefully we've

4964
03:07:19,349 --> 03:07:18,399
we've been able to just kind of dig into

4965
03:07:20,790 --> 03:07:19,359
a little

4966
03:07:22,389 --> 03:07:20,800
more deeper and i just love you all

4967
03:07:26,230 --> 03:07:22,399
storytelling so

4968
03:07:27,990 --> 03:07:26,240
yeah yes so we're like

4969
03:07:29,510 --> 03:07:28,000
it's almost like we've known each other

4970
03:07:31,510 --> 03:07:29,520
for you know ever

4971
03:07:32,950 --> 03:07:31,520
because i mean y'all you guys are easy

4972
03:07:35,030 --> 03:07:32,960
to talk to you know

4973
03:07:36,870 --> 03:07:35,040
it's comfortable like you said you know

4974
03:07:39,190 --> 03:07:36,880
it's like we're camping

4975
03:07:39,910 --> 03:07:39,200
around the campfire having a beer yeah

4976
03:07:41,990 --> 03:07:39,920
hell yeah

4977
03:07:43,830 --> 03:07:42,000
absolutely absolutely well like i said

4978
03:07:46,710 --> 03:07:43,840
before i mean this isn't uh

4979
03:07:47,590 --> 03:07:46,720
this isn't a uh a gotcha kind of show

4980
03:07:50,230 --> 03:07:47,600
you know we're not

4981
03:07:52,469 --> 03:07:50,240
we're not here to get anybody i mean

4982
03:07:55,510 --> 03:07:52,479
everybody has

4983
03:07:57,510 --> 03:07:55,520
you know a story of some kind everybody

4984
03:07:59,190 --> 03:07:57,520
has an experience that maybe they just

4985
03:08:01,429 --> 03:07:59,200
can't explain

4986
03:08:03,349 --> 03:08:01,439
and uh it's important to just get that

4987
03:08:06,230 --> 03:08:03,359
out you know some people have

4988
03:08:06,950 --> 03:08:06,240
more than others and you know i think

4989
03:08:10,389 --> 03:08:06,960
that's just

4990
03:08:13,910 --> 03:08:10,399
being human

4991
03:08:15,510 --> 03:08:13,920
is these unanswered puzzling questions

4992
03:08:17,429 --> 03:08:15,520
and things that just happened to us i

4993
03:08:19,830 --> 03:08:17,439
mean it's it's one of those things where

4994
03:08:21,990 --> 03:08:19,840
we just you know we do the best we can

4995
03:08:25,030 --> 03:08:22,000
we have our everyday life but then

4996
03:08:28,469 --> 03:08:25,040
occasionally we have the oddities

4997
03:08:30,870 --> 03:08:28,479
that come out and uh you know to me

4998
03:08:32,230 --> 03:08:30,880
personally that's that makes life

4999
03:08:34,790 --> 03:08:32,240
exciting

5000
03:08:35,349 --> 03:08:34,800
you know yeah you know that's right and

5001
03:08:38,870 --> 03:08:35,359
and

5002
03:08:42,230 --> 03:08:38,880
where the insight came from i know i

5003
03:08:44,550 --> 03:08:42,240
i i inundated you with lots of

5004
03:08:45,830 --> 03:08:44,560
information i kept sending to you as it

5005
03:08:47,670 --> 03:08:45,840
was coming to me

5006
03:08:49,269 --> 03:08:47,680
to just try to share and fill in some

5007
03:08:53,030 --> 03:08:49,279
blanks about

5008
03:08:55,670 --> 03:08:53,040
you know us and our past and so on

5009
03:08:58,389 --> 03:08:55,680
i don't know if either of you caught the

5010
03:09:02,150 --> 03:08:58,399
baby announcement that i sent to you

5011
03:09:03,910 --> 03:09:02,160
that indicates that i thought i'm an

5012
03:09:05,750 --> 03:09:03,920
only child i was told i was an only

5013
03:09:09,349 --> 03:09:05,760
child to my mother and my father i'm

5014
03:09:15,830 --> 03:09:13,830
but a few years after my mother died

5015
03:09:17,269 --> 03:09:15,840
uh i'm going through a box of photos

5016
03:09:20,309 --> 03:09:17,279
that i knew like i knew

5017
03:09:21,830 --> 03:09:20,319
who i am which is not real well but i

5018
03:09:23,190 --> 03:09:21,840
knew those photos because

5019
03:09:25,269 --> 03:09:23,200
when you don't have a family those

5020
03:09:27,190 --> 03:09:25,279
photos become very important

5021
03:09:29,030 --> 03:09:27,200
and all of a sudden i come across a

5022
03:09:31,030 --> 03:09:29,040
little envelope i'd never seen before in

5023
03:09:32,950 --> 03:09:31,040
my life never heard of in my life

5024
03:09:34,389 --> 03:09:32,960
in my mother's handwriting her

5025
03:09:36,870 --> 03:09:34,399
handwriting very

5026
03:09:38,309 --> 03:09:36,880
descriptive handwriting and it's post

5027
03:09:41,510 --> 03:09:38,319
dated and it has been

5028
03:09:43,590 --> 03:09:41,520
sent through the postal service a day

5029
03:09:45,670 --> 03:09:43,600
after my birth

5030
03:09:47,269 --> 03:09:45,680
and it and i showed you that i took a

5031
03:09:47,590 --> 03:09:47,279
picture i had chad took a picture of

5032
03:09:53,910 --> 03:09:47,600
that

5033
03:09:56,309 --> 03:09:53,920
pandora

5034
03:09:57,110 --> 03:09:56,319
when when you shared with me the last

5035
03:10:00,790 --> 03:09:57,120
time

5036
03:10:03,190 --> 03:10:00,800
the concept of pan and ambrosia

5037
03:10:04,389 --> 03:10:03,200
and all of these things that we have

5038
03:10:07,190 --> 03:10:04,399
never

5039
03:10:09,990 --> 03:10:07,200
been able to put together and then all

5040
03:10:12,309 --> 03:10:10,000
of a sudden you know i needed you to see

5041
03:10:13,750 --> 03:10:12,319
this pandora baby announcement because

5042
03:10:14,950 --> 03:10:13,760
that's not a word that had ever been

5043
03:10:18,229 --> 03:10:14,960
used in my life

5044
03:10:19,990 --> 03:10:18,239
right i have no idea who what and how

5045
03:10:22,389 --> 03:10:20,000
and how the hell did it get back into my

5046
03:10:23,269 --> 03:10:22,399
pictures yeah you know four years later

5047
03:10:25,990 --> 03:10:23,279
from behind

5048
03:10:28,070 --> 03:10:26,000
in california yeah from from an odd i'd

5049
03:10:29,349 --> 03:10:28,080
only met once in my life long distance

5050
03:10:32,309 --> 03:10:29,359
and you know right

5051
03:10:33,750 --> 03:10:32,319
so when you when you threw in the pan

5052
03:10:35,349 --> 03:10:33,760
part of this and

5053
03:10:37,269 --> 03:10:35,359
and as i said you know the ambrosia

5054
03:10:39,429 --> 03:10:37,279
stuff i sent you a little text

5055
03:10:40,309 --> 03:10:39,439
very quickly because i just it's all so

5056
03:10:42,150 --> 03:10:40,319
freaky

5057
03:10:44,229 --> 03:10:42,160
my mother-in-law walks in the day after

5058
03:10:47,269 --> 03:10:44,239
we spoke the first time

5059
03:10:48,309 --> 03:10:47,279
she shoves an apple at me she loves and

5060
03:10:51,110 --> 03:10:48,319
she knows i love

5061
03:10:53,110 --> 03:10:51,120
fruit and whatever and she loves apples

5062
03:10:54,309 --> 03:10:53,120
and she knows apples and she shoves one

5063
03:10:56,710 --> 03:10:54,319
apple at me

5064
03:10:59,440 --> 03:10:56,720
and she's all happy and smiling saying

5065
03:11:03,349 --> 03:10:59,450
this is ambrosia and i'm like

5066
03:11:12,710 --> 03:11:05,750
i couldn't effing believe that she had

5067
03:11:17,110 --> 03:11:15,190
that night i turned on the freaking

5068
03:11:18,790 --> 03:11:17,120
television that i don't watch a lot of

5069
03:11:20,150 --> 03:11:18,800
until maybe late at night when i want to

5070
03:11:21,990 --> 03:11:20,160
go to sleep

5071
03:11:24,309 --> 03:11:22,000
i turn on ancient aliens that i hadn't

5072
03:11:27,349 --> 03:11:24,319
seen in a billion years

5073
03:11:28,710 --> 03:11:27,359
and the night i turn it on it's all

5074
03:11:33,510 --> 03:11:28,720
about ambrosia

5075
03:11:39,950 --> 03:11:33,520
oh wow come on this is not him

5076
03:11:39,960 --> 03:11:44,150
[Music]

5077
03:11:48,150 --> 03:11:46,229
i'll just interject with you last you

5078
03:11:50,710 --> 03:11:48,160
know since not hearing my

5079
03:11:52,469 --> 03:11:50,720
my part of this the being that i was

5080
03:11:55,030 --> 03:11:52,479
with that night

5081
03:11:57,990 --> 03:11:55,040
was not any of those that chad was with

5082
03:12:01,670 --> 03:11:58,000
that he's describing he was with several

5083
03:12:04,630 --> 03:12:01,680
certainly was not a wolfy boy and

5084
03:12:06,950 --> 03:12:04,640
uh uh you know what everybody else is

5085
03:12:07,990 --> 03:12:06,960
calling a nordic which i find offensive

5086
03:12:10,469 --> 03:12:08,000
because i just don't buy

5087
03:12:12,150 --> 03:12:10,479
into this language she just happened to

5088
03:12:14,070 --> 03:12:12,160
be the most

5089
03:12:16,469 --> 03:12:14,080
physically beautiful female i'd ever

5090
03:12:19,030 --> 03:12:16,479
seen in my life with long blonde hair

5091
03:12:21,269 --> 03:12:19,040
and i just mentioned she was never a

5092
03:12:22,469 --> 03:12:21,279
part of their experience so whatever

5093
03:12:26,550 --> 03:12:22,479
this is all about

5094
03:12:29,190 --> 03:12:26,560
know let the story

5095
03:12:30,870 --> 03:12:29,200
continue and for anybody out there that

5096
03:12:33,830 --> 03:12:30,880
is hearing this

5097
03:12:34,469 --> 03:12:33,840
please trust these two with this

5098
03:12:37,830 --> 03:12:34,479
beautiful

5099
03:12:41,670 --> 03:12:37,840
show called ufo garage because

5100
03:12:41,910 --> 03:12:41,680
they feel so sincere and i know that you

5101
03:12:44,469 --> 03:12:41,920
all

5102
03:12:45,510 --> 03:12:44,479
are and we just can't thank you both

5103
03:12:48,150 --> 03:12:45,520
enough

5104
03:12:48,950 --> 03:12:48,160
for all this time that you've given us

5105
03:12:50,469 --> 03:12:48,960
to express

5106
03:12:53,190 --> 03:12:50,479
where we've been able to get this far

5107
03:12:55,269 --> 03:12:53,200
into this and just you know just look so

5108
03:12:57,269 --> 03:12:55,279
forward to you all growing

5109
03:12:58,950 --> 03:12:57,279
we're going to do everything we can to

5110
03:13:00,309 --> 03:12:58,960
in our little way to let the world know

5111
03:13:03,830 --> 03:13:00,319
you exist

5112
03:13:05,590 --> 03:13:03,840
and if you if you don't mind i wouldn't

5113
03:13:07,590 --> 03:13:05,600
if you if you'd be open to it i'd love

5114
03:13:09,750 --> 03:13:07,600
to send you

5115
03:13:10,710 --> 03:13:09,760
the text that i got from our friend here

5116
03:13:14,950 --> 03:13:10,720
that had his

5117
03:13:16,870 --> 03:13:14,960
experience oh absolutely

5118
03:13:17,990 --> 03:13:16,880
in this small little town that we now

5119
03:13:21,030 --> 03:13:18,000
currently live in

5120
03:13:24,150 --> 03:13:21,040
yeah yeah yeah i would love that and

5121
03:13:26,389 --> 03:13:24,160
and also i mean if if

5122
03:13:28,870 --> 03:13:26,399
if there's a part three i would love to

5123
03:13:32,389 --> 03:13:28,880
do it we have you know

5124
03:13:34,309 --> 03:13:32,399
part 30. so

5125
03:13:36,070 --> 03:13:34,319
we're at y'all we're at you're all back

5126
03:13:37,349 --> 03:13:36,080
in call you haven't heard anything about

5127
03:13:39,910 --> 03:13:37,359
the monkey lizard yet

5128
03:13:42,630 --> 03:13:39,920
not yet anything about chad's family

5129
03:13:43,110 --> 03:13:42,640
having the same ufo experiences as we've

5130
03:13:45,750 --> 03:13:43,120
had

5131
03:13:46,309 --> 03:13:45,760
and sasquatchy i might add so there's a

5132
03:13:48,150 --> 03:13:46,319
lot

5133
03:13:50,229 --> 03:13:48,160
i think there's much more to dig in man

5134
03:13:52,950 --> 03:13:50,239
i think we're in absolutely

5135
03:13:53,670 --> 03:13:52,960
all here absolutely i i think that yeah

5136
03:13:56,309 --> 03:13:53,680
yeah cause

5137
03:13:59,670 --> 03:13:56,319
i i i'm i'm kind of at this point

5138
03:14:03,190 --> 03:13:59,680
dedicated to getting as much

5139
03:14:06,150 --> 03:14:03,200
of your story as possible yeah awesome

5140
03:14:07,990 --> 03:14:06,160
we've got it to share yeah yeah

5141
03:14:11,510 --> 03:14:08,000
absolutely so i mean you know

5142
03:14:14,309 --> 03:14:11,520
even if it's not you know every week

5143
03:14:16,389 --> 03:14:14,319
i mean we got to do at least you know

5144
03:14:17,590 --> 03:14:16,399
every other week maybe like a once a

5145
03:14:19,670 --> 03:14:17,600
month thing so we can

5146
03:14:21,990 --> 03:14:19,680
so we can get this you know get this all

5147
03:14:24,950 --> 03:14:22,000
down yeah you know yeah we have to

5148
03:14:26,550 --> 03:14:24,960
us yeah we'd like to mention also we've

5149
03:14:28,790 --> 03:14:26,560
got a little couple

5150
03:14:30,469 --> 03:14:28,800
they have a they have their little it's

5151
03:14:33,670 --> 03:14:30,479
just a husband and wife

5152
03:14:35,030 --> 03:14:33,680
young couple live in mississippi who

5153
03:14:37,750 --> 03:14:35,040
actually are the first

5154
03:14:40,150 --> 03:14:37,760
folks to take us serious who have

5155
03:14:42,870 --> 03:14:40,160
dedicated themselves they have a little

5156
03:14:44,389 --> 03:14:42,880
uh their organization is called southern

5157
03:14:48,469 --> 03:14:44,399
ascension

5158
03:14:50,950 --> 03:14:48,479
and they they are working very hard

5159
03:14:52,469 --> 03:14:50,960
to uh get the world to take recognition

5160
03:14:53,510 --> 03:14:52,479
to what's happened to us and what's

5161
03:14:55,990 --> 03:14:53,520
happening to us

5162
03:14:57,429 --> 03:14:56,000
they actually drove from mississippi on

5163
03:15:00,870 --> 03:14:57,439
their dime

5164
03:15:03,030 --> 03:15:00,880
uh came to us in new orleans

5165
03:15:04,870 --> 03:15:03,040
to spend a few days to actually walked

5166
03:15:06,790 --> 03:15:04,880
around the french quarter and did some

5167
03:15:08,870 --> 03:15:06,800
videos of

5168
03:15:10,710 --> 03:15:08,880
where when and how and all that kind of

5169
03:15:11,750 --> 03:15:10,720
stuff so but they're so worthy of

5170
03:15:13,349 --> 03:15:11,760
acknowledgement

5171
03:15:15,910 --> 03:15:13,359
and again because they're that

5172
03:15:18,950 --> 03:15:15,920
generation they're in their 20s

5173
03:15:20,309 --> 03:15:18,960
and they are so interested in what's

5174
03:15:22,469 --> 03:15:20,319
happening with us

5175
03:15:23,750 --> 03:15:22,479
and we're just so grateful no matter

5176
03:15:26,550 --> 03:15:23,760
where anything goes

5177
03:15:28,630 --> 03:15:26,560
so yeah well that's awesome we thank you

5178
03:15:29,269 --> 03:15:28,640
for the opportunity to share their names

5179
03:15:31,349 --> 03:15:29,279
with you

5180
03:15:33,750 --> 03:15:31,359
and they're working very hard they got a

5181
03:15:35,349 --> 03:15:33,760
producer on television right now who's

5182
03:15:36,950 --> 03:15:35,359
very interested in what's happening with

5183
03:15:39,990 --> 03:15:36,960
us oh wow you know

5184
03:15:42,229 --> 03:15:40,000
that's not necessarily been my thing as

5185
03:15:42,630 --> 03:15:42,239
far as all that business is concerned

5186
03:15:45,670 --> 03:15:42,640
but

5187
03:15:47,590 --> 03:15:45,680
by all means whatever it takes to let

5188
03:15:50,309 --> 03:15:47,600
people know that this is happening

5189
03:15:51,349 --> 03:15:50,319
and also for others to know it's it's

5190
03:15:57,190 --> 03:15:51,359
okay

5191
03:15:58,630 --> 03:15:57,200
definitely if just to find the courage

5192
03:16:01,670 --> 03:15:58,640
to do it because it is a

5193
03:16:02,710 --> 03:16:01,680
very interesting road and thank god you

5194
03:16:04,550 --> 03:16:02,720
all exist

5195
03:16:06,790 --> 03:16:04,560
all of you younger folks out there that

5196
03:16:07,429 --> 03:16:06,800
are interested in what's happening to us

5197
03:16:09,030 --> 03:16:07,439
and

5198
03:16:10,950 --> 03:16:09,040
we just can't thank you enough

5199
03:16:12,389 --> 03:16:10,960
absolutely i feel like there's so much

5200
03:16:15,030 --> 03:16:12,399
more to tell about this story

5201
03:16:16,070 --> 03:16:15,040
we i mean this is part two but there's

5202
03:16:18,870 --> 03:16:16,080
gonna be

5203
03:16:20,309 --> 03:16:18,880
so many more so many more parts i i want

5204
03:16:22,469 --> 03:16:20,319
to continue to talk to you guys

5205
03:16:24,150 --> 03:16:22,479
like i i listen if you don't have

5206
03:16:26,950 --> 03:16:24,160
somebody showing up for a show

5207
03:16:29,590 --> 03:16:26,960
or you need somebody to fill in likes

5208
03:16:31,429 --> 03:16:29,600
you give us a

5209
03:16:33,510 --> 03:16:31,439
yeah call have your machine call i just

5210
03:16:34,389 --> 03:16:33,520
i i have so many more questions so i

5211
03:16:36,790 --> 03:16:34,399
mean

5212
03:16:37,990 --> 03:16:36,800
i i'm i'm excited to have the next

5213
03:16:39,349 --> 03:16:38,000
episode with you yeah it's definitely

5214
03:16:42,229 --> 03:16:39,359
going to happen soon yeah

5215
03:16:44,870 --> 03:16:42,239
so yeah with uh with thanksgiving coming

5216
03:16:45,670 --> 03:16:44,880
up we're we might have a a skip week so

5217
03:16:47,670 --> 03:16:45,680
we'll we'll

5218
03:16:49,510 --> 03:16:47,680
definitely like yeah as soon as possible

5219
03:16:52,229 --> 03:16:49,520
have you guys back on we all gonna

5220
03:16:52,710 --> 03:16:52,239
turkey day and yeah we look so forward

5221
03:16:55,670 --> 03:16:52,720
because

5222
03:16:56,150 --> 03:16:55,680
uh the house that we've moved back to uh

5223
03:16:58,070 --> 03:16:56,160
just

5224
03:16:59,670 --> 03:16:58,080
what a month ago chad we've been back

5225
03:17:02,550 --> 03:16:59,680
since october

5226
03:17:03,510 --> 03:17:02,560
this was a home we lived in back in the

5227
03:17:07,110 --> 03:17:03,520
day back in

5228
03:17:09,750 --> 03:17:07,120
uh we left here in 2011

5229
03:17:11,269 --> 03:17:09,760
and have just returned this is a

5230
03:17:13,990 --> 03:17:11,279
location we've had

5231
03:17:15,590 --> 03:17:14,000
phenomenal experiences at in this

5232
03:17:16,630 --> 03:17:15,600
backyard we're sitting in right now

5233
03:17:18,790 --> 03:17:16,640
talking to you really

5234
03:17:19,910 --> 03:17:18,800
so we look forward to sharing all with

5235
03:17:23,190 --> 03:17:19,920
you oh hey

5236
03:17:26,469 --> 03:17:23,200
i'm super excited about that oh yeah

5237
03:17:27,990 --> 03:17:26,479
oh my gosh well hey y'all love you guys

5238
03:17:31,030 --> 03:17:28,000
thank you guys so much for being on

5239
03:17:33,349 --> 03:17:31,040
tonight and to your families again for

5240
03:17:36,469 --> 03:17:33,359
allowing us to have this time with you

5241
03:17:42,710 --> 03:17:36,479
absolutely yeah happy holiday

5242
03:17:45,910 --> 03:17:45,429
thanks for everything thank you guys so

5243
03:17:50,309 --> 03:17:45,920
so

5244
03:17:53,830 --> 03:17:50,319
really enjoy

5245
03:17:55,830 --> 03:17:53,840
you know sharing our our experiences and

5246
03:17:57,830 --> 03:17:55,840
you know especially with you guys

5247
03:17:59,269 --> 03:17:57,840
you know after after tonight you're

5248
03:18:02,389 --> 03:17:59,279
you're you're top

5249
03:18:02,790 --> 03:18:02,399
you know oh yeah well thank you very

5250
03:18:05,030 --> 03:18:02,800
much

5251
03:18:05,910 --> 03:18:05,040
man i mean it's uh it's you know this

5252
03:18:08,950 --> 03:18:05,920
this whole thing

5253
03:18:10,710 --> 03:18:08,960
started just you know you know as a fun

5254
03:18:12,710 --> 03:18:10,720
thing for me and ben to talk about but

5255
03:18:14,950 --> 03:18:12,720
then you know it kind of evolved into

5256
03:18:17,269 --> 03:18:14,960
this uh

5257
03:18:19,110 --> 03:18:17,279
you know it's still a very fun thing for

5258
03:18:21,030 --> 03:18:19,120
us but i mean it's it's uh

5259
03:18:22,630 --> 03:18:21,040
it's it's kind of taking like not like a

5260
03:18:24,870 --> 03:18:22,640
serious tone but i mean it's

5261
03:18:26,389 --> 03:18:24,880
it's i we find it to be kind of a very

5262
03:18:29,030 --> 03:18:26,399
important outlet for

5263
03:18:30,550 --> 03:18:29,040
for people like y'all and so we take

5264
03:18:33,429 --> 03:18:30,560
that aspect of it

5265
03:18:34,830 --> 03:18:33,439
seriously you know so you know well it's

5266
03:18:37,910 --> 03:18:34,840
great because you've got

5267
03:18:38,550 --> 03:18:37,920
camaraderie you know between you know at

5268
03:18:41,590 --> 03:18:38,560
least

5269
03:18:43,590 --> 03:18:41,600
you know us and you guys you got where

5270
03:18:44,550 --> 03:18:43,600
we can bounce off of each other but you

5271
03:18:47,110 --> 03:18:44,560
also you know

5272
03:18:48,469 --> 03:18:47,120
again you guys are very serious and you

5273
03:18:50,550 --> 03:18:48,479
know i like that

5274
03:18:53,830 --> 03:18:50,560
yeah absolutely we like to have a good

5275
03:18:55,429 --> 03:18:53,840
time but we also liked you know

5276
03:18:56,950 --> 03:18:55,439
yeah like the joke here and there and

5277
03:19:00,870 --> 03:18:56,960
like man it was just yeah

5278
03:19:03,830 --> 03:19:00,880
so fun to just kind of work through

5279
03:19:04,870 --> 03:19:03,840
your guys's experiences like in and uh

5280
03:19:06,630 --> 03:19:04,880
compare it to

5281
03:19:07,990 --> 03:19:06,640
other stories that we've heard and like

5282
03:19:10,389 --> 03:19:08,000
learn together and

5283
03:19:12,469 --> 03:19:10,399
uh the listener that's listening is like

5284
03:19:15,510 --> 03:19:12,479
oh [\h__\h] i would never have

5285
03:19:16,469 --> 03:19:15,520
thought of that uh and you know it's

5286
03:19:18,309 --> 03:19:16,479
just a very

5287
03:19:20,070 --> 03:19:18,319
unique experience so you guys have been

5288
03:19:21,670 --> 03:19:20,080
awesome and and

5289
03:19:23,110 --> 03:19:21,680
it will be awesome in the future that's

5290
03:19:24,790 --> 03:19:23,120
not like an ending so

5291
03:19:26,710 --> 03:19:24,800
everybody is listening like this is not

5292
03:19:27,590 --> 03:19:26,720
the last time we're talking to chad and

5293
03:19:33,590 --> 03:19:27,600
alta

5294
03:19:35,990 --> 03:19:33,600
uh we'll talk to you guys soon and we'll

5295
03:19:36,469 --> 03:19:36,000
be uh in touch on facebook i know i need

5296
03:19:38,150 --> 03:19:36,479
to

5297
03:19:39,670 --> 03:19:38,160
i've been away from facebook messes so

5298
03:19:41,750 --> 03:19:39,680
i'm going to be messaging you guys i've

5299
03:19:42,389 --> 03:19:41,760
got a couple of things to share with you

5300
03:19:45,510 --> 03:19:42,399
guys

5301
03:19:47,190 --> 03:19:45,520
that i haven't spoke about uh based on

5302
03:19:49,510 --> 03:19:47,200
yeah so i'm i'm excited to share that

5303
03:19:52,229 --> 03:19:49,520
with you guys we'll talk off

5304
03:19:53,670 --> 03:19:52,239
well off air and uh yeah we'll we'll be

5305
03:19:55,190 --> 03:19:53,680
talking in between

5306
03:19:56,710 --> 03:19:55,200
the next time we have you guys back on

5307
03:20:00,070 --> 03:19:56,720
the show so definitely

5308
03:20:00,469 --> 03:20:00,080
yeah absolutely all right guys make sure

5309
03:20:06,229 --> 03:20:00,479
that

5310
03:20:07,830 --> 03:20:06,239
send books yes we'll do we're going to

5311
03:20:09,429 --> 03:20:07,840
do that as soon as we get off

5312
03:20:11,590 --> 03:20:09,439
we'll send it to you told you the book

5313
03:20:12,550 --> 03:20:11,600
but yeah but we'd really love to share

5314
03:20:14,309 --> 03:20:12,560
with you so

5315
03:20:16,469 --> 03:20:14,319
definitely definitely we'll send you an

5316
03:20:18,710 --> 03:20:16,479
address as soon as we get off

5317
03:20:19,990 --> 03:20:18,720
absolutely everybody have a wonderful

5318
03:20:23,030 --> 03:20:20,000
night you too

5319
03:20:28,880 --> 03:20:23,040
definitely we'll do it all right guys

5320
03:20:30,630 --> 03:20:28,890
we'll talk to y'all later good night bye

5321
03:20:33,990 --> 03:20:30,640
[Music]

5322
03:20:37,670 --> 03:20:34,000
well again man part two uh pretty epic

5323
03:20:41,110 --> 03:20:37,680
i mean this this story is just massive

5324
03:20:43,750 --> 03:20:41,120
it's massive it's massive do we do we

5325
03:20:45,030 --> 03:20:43,760
cut this into two because the next

5326
03:20:47,670 --> 03:20:45,040
couple of weeks is going to be

5327
03:20:49,670 --> 03:20:47,680
thanksgiving and then you know well i

5328
03:20:50,469 --> 03:20:49,680
mean you know we might that's not our mo

5329
03:20:53,670 --> 03:20:50,479
but i mean

5330
03:20:56,150 --> 03:20:53,680
it's an option i think we keep it one

5331
03:20:57,750 --> 03:20:56,160
i think i think we keep it one love that

5332
03:20:58,870 --> 03:20:57,760
i just needed you to tell me that that's

5333
03:20:59,910 --> 03:20:58,880
what we should do and then we should

5334
03:21:01,830 --> 03:20:59,920
keep it one because

5335
03:21:03,670 --> 03:21:01,840
i think this one is shorter than the

5336
03:21:04,790 --> 03:21:03,680
last one it is gonna be shorter it's a

5337
03:21:07,429 --> 03:21:04,800
little shorter

5338
03:21:09,830 --> 03:21:07,439
keep it one man people loved it so i

5339
03:21:11,670 --> 03:21:09,840
mean you know this this story is uh you

5340
03:21:15,429 --> 03:21:11,680
know

5341
03:21:17,590 --> 03:21:15,439
it's huge it is huge

5342
03:21:18,630 --> 03:21:17,600
so definitely man i think we should keep

5343
03:21:21,670 --> 03:21:18,640
it one

5344
03:21:23,910 --> 03:21:21,680
um and then like let's keep i agree

5345
03:21:25,349 --> 03:21:23,920
i just needed you the affirmation yeah

5346
03:21:28,389 --> 03:21:25,359
like that's our brand right

5347
03:21:31,990 --> 03:21:28,399
not like okay let's get more out of it

5348
03:21:34,229 --> 03:21:32,000
uh like by sectioning it off into two

5349
03:21:35,429 --> 03:21:34,239
yeah this is what happened tonight this

5350
03:21:37,190 --> 03:21:35,439
is what happened tonight

5351
03:21:38,469 --> 03:21:37,200
and let's stick to it let's stick to it

5352
03:21:40,630 --> 03:21:38,479
man love that

5353
03:21:41,990 --> 03:21:40,640
yeah and and i know there's there's some

5354
03:21:42,309 --> 03:21:42,000
listeners out there that are probably

5355
03:21:44,229 --> 03:21:42,319
like

5356
03:21:45,750 --> 03:21:44,239
god these episodes are [\h__\h] so long

5357
03:21:47,910 --> 03:21:45,760
but okay

5358
03:21:48,950 --> 03:21:47,920
well if you're in a really long drive

5359
03:21:51,030 --> 03:21:48,960
that's like three

5360
03:21:52,070 --> 03:21:51,040
and a half hours like from austin to

5361
03:21:54,389 --> 03:21:52,080
houston or or

5362
03:21:56,630 --> 03:21:54,399
aniwac texas like yeah man that's a

5363
03:21:57,990 --> 03:21:56,640
perfect time they're like steve he's got

5364
03:22:01,269 --> 03:21:58,000
those long drives that's

5365
03:22:03,030 --> 03:22:01,279
when he listens to the podcast you know

5366
03:22:05,030 --> 03:22:03,040
william same thing he's got those long

5367
03:22:07,990 --> 03:22:05,040
drives you know so like

5368
03:22:09,990 --> 03:22:08,000
there's people who uh you know me you

5369
03:22:11,030 --> 03:22:10,000
know my job consists of driving around

5370
03:22:13,830 --> 03:22:11,040
the job sites and

5371
03:22:14,309 --> 03:22:13,840
and making sure things are cool um and

5372
03:22:19,510 --> 03:22:14,319
uh

5373
03:22:21,190 --> 03:22:19,520
you know talking me through this and now

5374
03:22:24,469 --> 03:22:21,200
i'm i am okay

5375
03:22:26,550 --> 03:22:24,479
fine fine fine yeah uh

5376
03:22:27,590 --> 03:22:26,560
dude but holy [\h__\h] man there's so much i

5377
03:22:31,190 --> 03:22:27,600
want to dig into

5378
03:22:34,469 --> 03:22:31,200
the dude me too so chad's story

5379
03:22:36,790 --> 03:22:34,479
i feel like we

5380
03:22:38,469 --> 03:22:36,800
uh out of the time that we spent talking

5381
03:22:41,670 --> 03:22:38,479
about other things we should

5382
03:22:43,269 --> 03:22:41,680
next time maybe let's start with chad's

5383
03:22:45,269 --> 03:22:43,279
like hey let's go back i know there's

5384
03:22:46,710 --> 03:22:45,279
more to the story and i know i

5385
03:22:48,630 --> 03:22:46,720
i did say like let's get through the

5386
03:22:48,950 --> 03:22:48,640
whole story and then go back yeah but

5387
03:22:51,349 --> 03:22:48,960
like

5388
03:22:52,150 --> 03:22:51,359
i am so intrigued by the amount of

5389
03:22:55,190 --> 03:22:52,160
detail

5390
03:22:57,269 --> 03:22:55,200
and chad's story like he just went past

5391
03:22:59,910 --> 03:22:57,279
like oh there was a window that was

5392
03:23:01,590 --> 03:22:59,920
curved it was once metal and now it's

5393
03:23:03,349 --> 03:23:01,600
see-through it kind of reminds you of

5394
03:23:05,590 --> 03:23:03,359
the uh the the

5395
03:23:06,790 --> 03:23:05,600
see-through aluminum that i was showing

5396
03:23:08,950 --> 03:23:06,800
you the other day yes

5397
03:23:10,710 --> 03:23:08,960
like dude i almost was like gonna be

5398
03:23:13,670 --> 03:23:10,720
banging on you like

5399
03:23:14,790 --> 03:23:13,680
yeah but i knew i knew that's where your

5400
03:23:17,830 --> 03:23:14,800
head was

5401
03:23:19,349 --> 03:23:17,840
i assumed just the the description man

5402
03:23:21,750 --> 03:23:19,359
the smoothness

5403
03:23:22,790 --> 03:23:21,760
there's no rivets that's uh you know and

5404
03:23:24,630 --> 03:23:22,800
like bob lazar

5405
03:23:26,469 --> 03:23:24,640
he said the same thing you go in there

5406
03:23:28,469 --> 03:23:26,479
there's no rivets right all smooth

5407
03:23:30,309 --> 03:23:28,479
it's like one little piece and it makes

5408
03:23:31,190 --> 03:23:30,319
me think of like we have this technology

5409
03:23:34,550 --> 03:23:31,200
now for like

5410
03:23:36,150 --> 03:23:34,560
bathroom windows like the the whole door

5411
03:23:38,469 --> 03:23:36,160
of to the bathroom is like clear and

5412
03:23:40,790 --> 03:23:38,479
then you you switch a light

5413
03:23:42,229 --> 03:23:40,800
uh switch and it like makes it cloudy

5414
03:23:43,910 --> 03:23:42,239
yep i don't know what the science is

5415
03:23:45,910 --> 03:23:43,920
behind that but like bro if we could

5416
03:23:48,070 --> 03:23:45,920
figure it out

5417
03:23:48,950 --> 03:23:48,080
like aliens could figure out a way a

5418
03:23:50,950 --> 03:23:48,960
better solution

5419
03:23:52,150 --> 03:23:50,960
yeah yeah they could probably turn like

5420
03:23:54,550 --> 03:23:52,160
water into metal

5421
03:23:56,469 --> 03:23:54,560
by the switch of a button his uh his

5422
03:23:59,590 --> 03:23:56,479
little dream about the window

5423
03:24:03,590 --> 03:23:59,600
it kind of reminded me of

5424
03:24:06,229 --> 03:24:03,600
of a j what i assumed to be a dream

5425
03:24:06,790 --> 03:24:06,239
but now after hearing his little account

5426
03:24:09,670 --> 03:24:06,800
it's like

5427
03:24:10,309 --> 03:24:09,680
that kind of makes me wonder i had this

5428
03:24:14,309 --> 03:24:10,319
dream

5429
03:24:17,910 --> 03:24:14,319
where i was in this dark ass room

5430
03:24:20,469 --> 03:24:17,920
it was almost like a like a lunchroom

5431
03:24:21,830 --> 03:24:20,479
cafeteria type vibe yeah and it was

5432
03:24:24,630 --> 03:24:21,840
really strange

5433
03:24:30,790 --> 03:24:24,640
oh [\h__\h] we lost we lost video one second

5434
03:24:34,309 --> 03:24:32,630
last time it worked when i unplugged it

5435
03:24:38,229 --> 03:24:34,319
and then started again make sure you go

5436
03:24:41,030 --> 03:24:38,239
to ufogaragepc.com

5437
03:24:42,140 --> 03:24:41,040
we just caught it in the middle of my

5438
03:24:45,590 --> 03:24:42,150
dream

5439
03:24:49,590 --> 03:24:45,600
[Laughter]

5440
03:24:51,429 --> 03:24:49,600
[\h__\h] uh oh my gosh

5441
03:24:52,790 --> 03:24:51,439
let's put you on yeah i mean no we can

5442
03:24:53,429 --> 03:24:52,800
just keep going i mean this is gonna be

5443
03:24:55,269 --> 03:24:53,439
the very end

5444
03:24:57,429 --> 03:24:55,279
anyways we'll just we'll just put some

5445
03:24:57,670 --> 03:24:57,439
some cool t-shirts ufo garage t-shirts

5446
03:24:59,429 --> 03:24:57,680
up

5447
03:25:01,190 --> 03:24:59,439
for the end of this part but i had this

5448
03:25:04,790 --> 03:25:01,200
dream it seemed like

5449
03:25:08,630 --> 03:25:04,800
it was very very dark um and

5450
03:25:09,990 --> 03:25:08,640
some there was a couple people that were

5451
03:25:12,630 --> 03:25:10,000
talking to me

5452
03:25:13,510 --> 03:25:12,640
but they weren't people they were they

5453
03:25:17,110 --> 03:25:13,520
were

5454
03:25:20,710 --> 03:25:17,120
in like

5455
03:25:24,389 --> 03:25:20,720
i guess it was like a white kind of lab

5456
03:25:27,750 --> 03:25:24,399
coat okay but they were more brown

5457
03:25:29,670 --> 03:25:27,760
looking and i can't see faces

5458
03:25:31,190 --> 03:25:29,680
that's why i like asked him it was like

5459
03:25:32,950 --> 03:25:31,200
kind of this dream thing was like kind

5460
03:25:34,550 --> 03:25:32,960
of fuzzy

5461
03:25:36,309 --> 03:25:34,560
they were they were brown i couldn't

5462
03:25:39,990 --> 03:25:36,319
really make out faces right

5463
03:25:43,110 --> 03:25:40,000
but as i'm looking through this room

5464
03:25:45,590 --> 03:25:43,120
there's this big ass window

5465
03:25:46,150 --> 03:25:45,600
off to the front and all i can see is

5466
03:25:50,030 --> 03:25:46,160
space

5467
03:25:53,030 --> 03:25:50,040
just right dark and there's just stars

5468
03:25:57,110 --> 03:25:53,040
everywhere i'm seeing like the the

5469
03:25:59,110 --> 03:25:57,120
uh the port where in star wars they park

5470
03:26:00,550 --> 03:25:59,120
all the that's exactly what it looked

5471
03:26:03,910 --> 03:26:00,560
like yeah it was just

5472
03:26:04,309 --> 03:26:03,920
all enclosed and instead of that like

5473
03:26:07,429 --> 03:26:04,319
light

5474
03:26:08,550 --> 03:26:07,439
shield thing right it was kind of a

5475
03:26:11,750 --> 03:26:08,560
concaved

5476
03:26:13,910 --> 03:26:11,760
like window and it just wrapped around

5477
03:26:15,190 --> 03:26:13,920
like half of the room okay and the

5478
03:26:18,790 --> 03:26:15,200
motion you made with your

5479
03:26:21,190 --> 03:26:18,800
your hand was like this but when i when

5480
03:26:22,710 --> 03:26:21,200
maybe it's just my brain when i was

5481
03:26:23,910 --> 03:26:22,720
thinking of concave i thought it was

5482
03:26:25,910 --> 03:26:23,920
going in

5483
03:26:27,590 --> 03:26:25,920
but this makes way more sense yeah no it

5484
03:26:30,870 --> 03:26:27,600
was like like xy

5485
03:26:34,150 --> 03:26:30,880
versus uh what's the

5486
03:26:35,750 --> 03:26:34,160
what's the other one wait x y all right

5487
03:26:36,550 --> 03:26:35,760
keep going keep going there's only three

5488
03:26:38,389 --> 03:26:36,560
letters x

5489
03:26:40,710 --> 03:26:38,399
y and z in the fourth dimension there's

5490
03:26:45,030 --> 03:26:40,720
like z and

5491
03:26:47,590 --> 03:26:45,040
z and q i'm so [\h__\h] dumb

5492
03:26:48,870 --> 03:26:47,600
no i mean if you imagine kind of a

5493
03:26:51,269 --> 03:26:48,880
saucer shape

5494
03:26:53,190 --> 03:26:51,279
right but instead of like tapering down

5495
03:26:55,349 --> 03:26:53,200
into like these thin edges

5496
03:26:56,469 --> 03:26:55,359
if it was just more round like a donut

5497
03:26:59,429 --> 03:26:56,479
if it was like a donut

5498
03:27:00,870 --> 03:26:59,439
yeah half the doughnut was closed off

5499
03:27:01,590 --> 03:27:00,880
right and then the other side of the

5500
03:27:04,070 --> 03:27:01,600
donut

5501
03:27:05,190 --> 03:27:04,080
had this cool window on the front of it

5502
03:27:05,510 --> 03:27:05,200
that's what it that's you're going to

5503
03:27:07,030 --> 03:27:05,520
talk

5504
03:27:08,710 --> 03:27:07,040
about a dream that you had right i'm

5505
03:27:10,710 --> 03:27:08,720
talking about a dream that i had

5506
03:27:12,150 --> 03:27:10,720
[\h__\h] that's a cool dream yeah it was

5507
03:27:15,030 --> 03:27:12,160
really weird because

5508
03:27:16,710 --> 03:27:15,040
i wasn't like scared yeah but i wasn't

5509
03:27:18,870 --> 03:27:16,720
like

5510
03:27:19,910 --> 03:27:18,880
were you were you standing yeah i was

5511
03:27:22,229 --> 03:27:19,920
standing

5512
03:27:24,550 --> 03:27:22,239
were you observing a craft or were you

5513
03:27:25,670 --> 03:27:24,560
no i was i was inside of something and

5514
03:27:28,630 --> 03:27:25,680
i'm standing like

5515
03:27:29,990 --> 03:27:28,640
if you can imagine like a cafeteria room

5516
03:27:33,670 --> 03:27:30,000
almost but there was like

5517
03:27:34,790 --> 03:27:33,680
round round tables and i know that there

5518
03:27:37,990 --> 03:27:34,800
was

5519
03:27:40,389 --> 03:27:38,000
people things beings i don't know

5520
03:27:41,030 --> 03:27:40,399
they were sitting just randomly and they

5521
03:27:42,710 --> 03:27:41,040
weren't like

5522
03:27:44,790 --> 03:27:42,720
everybody was at every single table it

5523
03:27:47,590 --> 03:27:44,800
was like some tables had two

5524
03:27:48,469 --> 03:27:47,600
some tables had like five it was like

5525
03:27:50,870 --> 03:27:48,479
your typical

5526
03:27:52,630 --> 03:27:50,880
like but everything was black the floor

5527
03:27:54,550 --> 03:27:52,640
was black the ceiling was black

5528
03:27:56,389 --> 03:27:54,560
everything was black but there was some

5529
03:27:59,030 --> 03:27:56,399
kind of it was

5530
03:28:00,950 --> 03:27:59,040
lit i could see but i i feel like the

5531
03:28:03,910 --> 03:28:00,960
light was coming from

5532
03:28:06,710 --> 03:28:03,920
the stars from outside and it was just

5533
03:28:08,790 --> 03:28:06,720
shining in the window and i could

5534
03:28:10,309 --> 03:28:08,800
i don't know like i wasn't scared or

5535
03:28:12,469 --> 03:28:10,319
anything but i don't know

5536
03:28:14,309 --> 03:28:12,479
it was just such a a random dream and

5537
03:28:15,110 --> 03:28:14,319
then when he said that i was like what

5538
03:28:17,750 --> 03:28:15,120
the [\h__\h]

5539
03:28:19,110 --> 03:28:17,760
it made you remember that dream made me

5540
03:28:21,590 --> 03:28:19,120
remember that dream

5541
03:28:22,150 --> 03:28:21,600
there were so many i mean i'm not tr i'm

5542
03:28:25,990 --> 03:28:22,160
trying

5543
03:28:27,830 --> 03:28:26,000
piggyback off or like

5544
03:28:30,710 --> 03:28:27,840
do whatever but like there were so many

5545
03:28:31,190 --> 03:28:30,720
moments off of little details that both

5546
03:28:34,070 --> 03:28:31,200
of

5547
03:28:35,030 --> 03:28:34,080
uh alta and chad were saying that like

5548
03:28:38,389 --> 03:28:35,040
triggered

5549
03:28:39,349 --> 03:28:38,399
memories of mine that like either in

5550
03:28:42,550 --> 03:28:39,359
real life or like

5551
03:28:45,670 --> 03:28:42,560
dream things that i've thought of ah

5552
03:28:48,229 --> 03:28:45,680
dude so i i relate in that aspect yeah

5553
03:28:49,670 --> 03:28:48,239
yeah i i feel the same way certain

5554
03:28:51,110 --> 03:28:49,680
things that they said like kind of

5555
03:28:54,229 --> 03:28:51,120
triggered like these

5556
03:28:56,790 --> 03:28:54,239
oh [\h__\h] i kind of feel like i may have

5557
03:28:59,110 --> 03:28:56,800
experienced something like that as well

5558
03:29:01,349 --> 03:28:59,120
except for you're more cognizant of it

5559
03:29:02,150 --> 03:29:01,359
yeah and i'm not yeah so that's the big

5560
03:29:05,269 --> 03:29:02,160
thing for me

5561
03:29:07,190 --> 03:29:05,279
uh i mean we i i guess for like three

5562
03:29:10,150 --> 03:29:07,200
times out of this whole three hours

5563
03:29:10,630 --> 03:29:10,160
we like stopped for a second and like i

5564
03:29:13,830 --> 03:29:10,640
mean

5565
03:29:17,670 --> 03:29:13,840
we just all three or all four

5566
03:29:19,750 --> 03:29:17,680
gave you know uh praise to just like hey

5567
03:29:21,670 --> 03:29:19,760
this is cool what we're doing like i'm

5568
03:29:23,990 --> 03:29:21,680
just glad we're talking to each other

5569
03:29:25,030 --> 03:29:24,000
awesome that you're on the show hey

5570
03:29:28,070 --> 03:29:25,040
thanks for having

5571
03:29:30,389 --> 03:29:28,080
us on your show but also like

5572
03:29:31,750 --> 03:29:30,399
this stuff that we're talking about is

5573
03:29:34,389 --> 03:29:31,760
it can often

5574
03:29:36,229 --> 03:29:34,399
often be described as like oh this is

5575
03:29:37,510 --> 03:29:36,239
just a dream and like people that don't

5576
03:29:39,670 --> 03:29:37,520
know anything about this [\h__\h]

5577
03:29:41,269 --> 03:29:39,680
and it's and it's good to to talk to

5578
03:29:44,550 --> 03:29:41,279
some some people that have

5579
03:29:45,910 --> 03:29:44,560
such a vivid memory yeah because when

5580
03:29:48,870 --> 03:29:45,920
you talk about like

5581
03:29:50,469 --> 03:29:48,880
weird dreams that you have they i don't

5582
03:29:51,110 --> 03:29:50,479
have any weird dreams like that that i

5583
03:29:54,389 --> 03:29:51,120
have such

5584
03:29:56,550 --> 03:29:54,399
vivid descriptions of uh

5585
03:29:57,910 --> 03:29:56,560
uh comparative to what they have so i

5586
03:29:59,510 --> 03:29:57,920
guess my point is

5587
03:30:00,950 --> 03:29:59,520
that i kind of went all over the place

5588
03:30:03,429 --> 03:30:00,960
with that but well

5589
03:30:04,550 --> 03:30:03,439
the point is the the detail that they're

5590
03:30:06,309 --> 03:30:04,560
allowed or uh

5591
03:30:08,950 --> 03:30:06,319
able to go through with their

5592
03:30:09,910 --> 03:30:08,960
experiences and whether it be a dream

5593
03:30:11,910 --> 03:30:09,920
like state or

5594
03:30:13,990 --> 03:30:11,920
actual reality who the [\h__\h] knows we

5595
03:30:16,150 --> 03:30:14,000
live in a simulation anyway

5596
03:30:18,070 --> 03:30:16,160
yeah but but you know what really got me

5597
03:30:21,429 --> 03:30:18,080
tonight what's that

5598
03:30:24,469 --> 03:30:21,439
is is the the gradient between

5599
03:30:28,070 --> 03:30:24,479
the the hand the hand the blue

5600
03:30:30,070 --> 03:30:28,080
holy [\h__\h] and like no one asked

5601
03:30:31,910 --> 03:30:30,080
him what it what the skin looked like

5602
03:30:34,790 --> 03:30:31,920
yeah no one asked and he

5603
03:30:35,590 --> 03:30:34,800
said it was this blue and it was okay

5604
03:30:38,389 --> 03:30:35,600
let me tell you

5605
03:30:39,830 --> 03:30:38,399
i mean this guy i mean i [\h__\h] love

5606
03:30:42,790 --> 03:30:39,840
chad dude he's like so

5607
03:30:43,590 --> 03:30:42,800
just to the point and like just a good

5608
03:30:45,510 --> 03:30:43,600
[\h__\h] guy

5609
03:30:47,190 --> 03:30:45,520
yeah he's not trying to it doesn't sound

5610
03:30:50,150 --> 03:30:47,200
like he's trying to sell you on

5611
03:30:50,630 --> 03:30:50,160
anything dude yeah not i'm not saying

5612
03:30:53,030 --> 03:30:50,640
that

5613
03:30:54,469 --> 03:30:53,040
alta is either she's a great storyteller

5614
03:30:55,830 --> 03:30:54,479
and she's not trying to sell anything

5615
03:30:58,229 --> 03:30:55,840
either i'm just saying like

5616
03:30:59,590 --> 03:30:58,239
chad in a way is more he gets to the

5617
03:31:02,309 --> 03:30:59,600
point a little faster

5618
03:31:03,429 --> 03:31:02,319
with details and what what he was able

5619
03:31:05,750 --> 03:31:03,439
to do

5620
03:31:06,630 --> 03:31:05,760
i mean comparative to other stories that

5621
03:31:10,150 --> 03:31:06,640
i've heard is

5622
03:31:11,429 --> 03:31:10,160
is say something so out of the ordinary

5623
03:31:14,070 --> 03:31:11,439
that i've never heard before

5624
03:31:14,469 --> 03:31:14,080
like that level of detail i think we

5625
03:31:16,950 --> 03:31:14,479
both

5626
03:31:18,550 --> 03:31:16,960
know who i would be talking about with

5627
03:31:20,710 --> 03:31:18,560
the the person that was

5628
03:31:21,910 --> 03:31:20,720
supposedly had had thousands of

5629
03:31:25,190 --> 03:31:21,920
dissections with

5630
03:31:26,710 --> 03:31:25,200
with alien entities in his career

5631
03:31:28,630 --> 03:31:26,720
well i don't know if that guy's lying or

5632
03:31:31,990 --> 03:31:28,640
if he's true but he's he is

5633
03:31:33,750 --> 03:31:32,000
connected to i won't say his name but

5634
03:31:35,910 --> 03:31:33,760
he's never talked about gradients in

5635
03:31:38,070 --> 03:31:35,920
skin from the top of

5636
03:31:39,910 --> 03:31:38,080
these alien beings to the to the palm of

5637
03:31:40,309 --> 03:31:39,920
their hands it's like yeah i did this

5638
03:31:42,710 --> 03:31:40,319
okay

5639
03:31:43,990 --> 03:31:42,720
details well they were aliens yeah

5640
03:31:46,150 --> 03:31:44,000
there's no [\h__\h] details

5641
03:31:47,190 --> 03:31:46,160
no details whatsoever like that and then

5642
03:31:50,070 --> 03:31:47,200
this guy gets

5643
03:31:51,110 --> 03:31:50,080
orb ducted in the french quarter right

5644
03:31:52,950 --> 03:31:51,120
then

5645
03:31:54,150 --> 03:31:52,960
ends up getting a regression and

5646
03:31:57,110 --> 03:31:54,160
remembers

5647
03:31:58,469 --> 03:31:57,120
right like uh and even when he was like

5648
03:32:00,309 --> 03:31:58,479
it was like a quarter

5649
03:32:01,830 --> 03:32:00,319
maybe like a dollar size yeah half

5650
03:32:04,229 --> 03:32:01,840
dollar the thing

5651
03:32:05,190 --> 03:32:04,239
right and then he did the whole the

5652
03:32:07,670 --> 03:32:05,200
whole buddha

5653
03:32:09,429 --> 03:32:07,680
jesus hand thing i think i put i think i

5654
03:32:10,150 --> 03:32:09,439
threw up a baphomet sign and i'm sorry

5655
03:32:11,429 --> 03:32:10,160
about that for

5656
03:32:13,269 --> 03:32:11,439
the person the person that's been

5657
03:32:15,349 --> 03:32:13,279
watching our videos but even even

5658
03:32:16,389 --> 03:32:15,359
even uh even the statue like the

5659
03:32:19,110 --> 03:32:16,399
baphomet statue

5660
03:32:19,510 --> 03:32:19,120
he does the same thing so he does the

5661
03:32:22,790 --> 03:32:19,520
same

5662
03:32:25,670 --> 03:32:22,800
as krishna uh-huh

5663
03:32:26,469 --> 03:32:25,680
yep yep and even jesus has it too jesus

5664
03:32:28,550 --> 03:32:26,479
does it too

5665
03:32:30,550 --> 03:32:28,560
okay the buddha and that's one of the

5666
03:32:32,630 --> 03:32:30,560
weird things about all these like

5667
03:32:33,590 --> 03:32:32,640
you know paintings and stuff what's up

5668
03:32:35,910 --> 03:32:33,600
with this hand

5669
03:32:37,830 --> 03:32:35,920
why are they why are they all doing this

5670
03:32:39,510 --> 03:32:37,840
yeah i initially did all of them i did

5671
03:32:40,710 --> 03:32:39,520
this but then when i saw you or you're

5672
03:32:41,750 --> 03:32:40,720
like i think you're correct i don't

5673
03:32:43,670 --> 03:32:41,760
think that's right i think

5674
03:32:45,750 --> 03:32:43,680
it's like it's like these two fingers

5675
03:32:46,550 --> 03:32:45,760
are down yeah well how the [\h__\h] do you

5676
03:32:49,110 --> 03:32:46,560
do that

5677
03:32:50,950 --> 03:32:49,120
it's like that oh i'm doing it wrong

5678
03:32:51,750 --> 03:32:50,960
yeah okay no it's like it's like a peace

5679
03:32:54,469 --> 03:32:51,760
sign

5680
03:32:54,950 --> 03:32:54,479
but they have the fingers together this

5681
03:32:58,229 --> 03:32:54,960
like

5682
03:32:59,190 --> 03:32:58,239
yeah what the [\h__\h] does that mean dude

5683
03:33:01,990 --> 03:32:59,200
yeah i don't know

5684
03:33:03,990 --> 03:33:02,000
but you know yeah the baphomet statues

5685
03:33:05,670 --> 03:33:04,000
jesus the buddhas like they all have

5686
03:33:07,990 --> 03:33:05,680
this hand signals krishna

5687
03:33:09,030 --> 03:33:08,000
like all of them so out of all of the

5688
03:33:11,429 --> 03:33:09,040
connection that

5689
03:33:13,110 --> 03:33:11,439
that we've made been able to make so far

5690
03:33:15,030 --> 03:33:13,120
with their story like

5691
03:33:16,710 --> 03:33:15,040
dude let's be honest it's kind of all

5692
03:33:18,309 --> 03:33:16,720
over the place and there's

5693
03:33:19,910 --> 03:33:18,319
and there's i'm not saying that is a bad

5694
03:33:21,110 --> 03:33:19,920
thing but i feel like they've they've

5695
03:33:23,269 --> 03:33:21,120
really experienced the

5696
03:33:25,429 --> 03:33:23,279
the spectrum like you're going from like

5697
03:33:28,790 --> 03:33:25,439
greek mythology

5698
03:33:31,990 --> 03:33:28,800
to aliens to to christianity

5699
03:33:35,910 --> 03:33:32,000
like werewolves wolves dude

5700
03:33:40,790 --> 03:33:38,469
and then well okay we'll bring it back

5701
03:33:43,750 --> 03:33:40,800
to the the christianity thing like

5702
03:33:44,710 --> 03:33:43,760
that's such a very specific thing to

5703
03:33:48,150 --> 03:33:44,720
mention

5704
03:33:51,590 --> 03:33:48,160
when an alien being is manipulating

5705
03:33:53,590 --> 03:33:51,600
some type of substance you could just

5706
03:33:54,469 --> 03:33:53,600
say oh yeah he just held it in his hands

5707
03:33:57,030 --> 03:33:54,479
but no

5708
03:33:58,790 --> 03:33:57,040
he said he did this symbol with his hand

5709
03:34:01,190 --> 03:33:58,800
like that's so specific

5710
03:34:03,190 --> 03:34:01,200
who the [\h__\h] would make that up dude

5711
03:34:04,070 --> 03:34:03,200
yeah it just makes me believe in man

5712
03:34:07,670 --> 03:34:04,080
like that's

5713
03:34:10,710 --> 03:34:07,680
just yeah um that

5714
03:34:13,670 --> 03:34:10,720
that substance the blue substance

5715
03:34:14,229 --> 03:34:13,680
that started spinning rotating super

5716
03:34:17,670 --> 03:34:14,239
fast

5717
03:34:19,590 --> 03:34:17,680
and then turn into like this crystal uh

5718
03:34:21,349 --> 03:34:19,600
you know you know how like eric was

5719
03:34:24,229 --> 03:34:21,359
talking about the the magnet

5720
03:34:25,349 --> 03:34:24,239
spinning and then and then creating the

5721
03:34:28,550 --> 03:34:25,359
the uh

5722
03:34:32,550 --> 03:34:28,560
uh [\h__\h] what's it called that springer

5723
03:34:37,110 --> 03:34:35,590
the neuron there you go fire where

5724
03:34:38,630 --> 03:34:37,120
they were able to actually get the thing

5725
03:34:40,630 --> 03:34:38,640
to fire and yeah

5726
03:34:43,030 --> 03:34:40,640
and it made like this brilliant blue

5727
03:34:45,670 --> 03:34:43,040
color yeah so

5728
03:34:46,150 --> 03:34:45,680
it kind of was like okay so they had

5729
03:34:49,429 --> 03:34:46,160
this

5730
03:34:52,469 --> 03:34:49,439
substance full of sparkly metal stuff

5731
03:34:56,070 --> 03:34:52,479
yes right spinning fast enough right

5732
03:34:59,429 --> 03:34:56,080
started glowing blue if you spin that

5733
03:35:03,030 --> 03:34:59,439
magnet fast enough neuron wise would it

5734
03:35:04,790 --> 03:35:03,040
create this would it create something

5735
03:35:07,269 --> 03:35:04,800
would it create a reality

5736
03:35:08,710 --> 03:35:07,279
would it create a universe would it

5737
03:35:11,349 --> 03:35:08,720
create

5738
03:35:12,550 --> 03:35:11,359
some something right [\h__\h] you know what

5739
03:35:15,590 --> 03:35:12,560
i'm saying because if if

5740
03:35:18,710 --> 03:35:15,600
if yeah so sorry if

5741
03:35:19,590 --> 03:35:18,720
energy is this consciousness that they

5742
03:35:23,590 --> 03:35:19,600
talk about

5743
03:35:25,990 --> 03:35:23,600
and then you know the universe is made

5744
03:35:28,790 --> 03:35:26,000
of all of this [\h__\h]

5745
03:35:30,550 --> 03:35:28,800
then who's to say that yeah we were able

5746
03:35:33,990 --> 03:35:30,560
to spin a magnet to

5747
03:35:37,030 --> 03:35:34,000
fire a neuron which is

5748
03:35:38,870 --> 03:35:37,040
the energy that it takes to have this

5749
03:35:41,590 --> 03:35:38,880
consciousness in the first place

5750
03:35:44,790 --> 03:35:41,600
if you took it a step further and you

5751
03:35:46,950 --> 03:35:44,800
were able to spin these magnets even

5752
03:35:48,229 --> 03:35:46,960
faster who's to say you couldn't make a

5753
03:35:50,630 --> 03:35:48,239
basketball or a

5754
03:35:51,830 --> 03:35:50,640
table or you're you know what i'm saying

5755
03:35:53,590 --> 03:35:51,840
like like the uh

5756
03:35:55,110 --> 03:35:53,600
you know how they say like everything

5757
03:35:56,870 --> 03:35:55,120
like if you were to vibrate

5758
03:35:58,870 --> 03:35:56,880
different different things at different

5759
03:36:00,550 --> 03:35:58,880
frequencies like your table

5760
03:36:02,469 --> 03:36:00,560
if you vibrated it at a different

5761
03:36:04,469 --> 03:36:02,479
frequency turns into a tv

5762
03:36:06,070 --> 03:36:04,479
yeah if you zoom in close enough to this

5763
03:36:08,070 --> 03:36:06,080
table you will find space

5764
03:36:09,590 --> 03:36:08,080
in between these molecules there it's

5765
03:36:10,150 --> 03:36:09,600
there's more space in this table than

5766
03:36:13,110 --> 03:36:10,160
there are

5767
03:36:13,750 --> 03:36:13,120
actual wood or wood particle molecules

5768
03:36:16,550 --> 03:36:13,760
right you know

5769
03:36:17,750 --> 03:36:16,560
so like yeah i love that train of

5770
03:36:20,710 --> 03:36:17,760
thought like

5771
03:36:22,229 --> 03:36:20,720
so what you're okay correct me if i'm

5772
03:36:26,070 --> 03:36:22,239
wrong but what you're alluding to

5773
03:36:28,550 --> 03:36:26,080
is uh this being spinning some

5774
03:36:29,830 --> 03:36:28,560
matter that's the size of a quarter or a

5775
03:36:33,349 --> 03:36:29,840
half dollar

5776
03:36:35,910 --> 03:36:33,359
you could probably turn that in in the

5777
03:36:37,590 --> 03:36:35,920
the parameters that we're speaking of

5778
03:36:38,790 --> 03:36:37,600
you could turn that into an entire

5779
03:36:40,870 --> 03:36:38,800
planet if you wanted to

5780
03:36:41,910 --> 03:36:40,880
if you wanted to because exactly there's

5781
03:36:44,389 --> 03:36:41,920
more space

5782
03:36:46,630 --> 03:36:44,399
than there is matter exactly so it just

5783
03:36:48,070 --> 03:36:46,640
depends on how dense that object is or

5784
03:36:48,630 --> 03:36:48,080
whatever it's made of right like how

5785
03:36:51,030 --> 03:36:48,640
much

5786
03:36:52,229 --> 03:36:51,040
space does it occupy so he could be he

5787
03:36:53,830 --> 03:36:52,239
could be like

5788
03:36:55,670 --> 03:36:53,840
like show it off like hey i'm about to

5789
03:36:59,110 --> 03:36:55,680
create the next mars dude check this out

5790
03:37:02,870 --> 03:36:59,120
yeah yeah he's like boom yeah so

5791
03:37:06,309 --> 03:37:02,880
charizard pokemon holographic [\h__\h]

5792
03:37:09,190 --> 03:37:06,319
in in its case in its case

5793
03:37:10,309 --> 03:37:09,200
but to us spinning that magnet to create

5794
03:37:13,190 --> 03:37:10,319
the neuron

5795
03:37:13,590 --> 03:37:13,200
was the first step of this whole thing

5796
03:37:16,710 --> 03:37:13,600
yeah

5797
03:37:19,590 --> 03:37:16,720
now if we can continue to to

5798
03:37:20,790 --> 03:37:19,600
rotate these metals and different

5799
03:37:23,349 --> 03:37:20,800
vibrations and

5800
03:37:24,870 --> 03:37:23,359
like different speeds what else can you

5801
03:37:26,070 --> 03:37:24,880
create maybe that was just something

5802
03:37:27,670 --> 03:37:26,080
that they do he was like i'm going to

5803
03:37:31,190 --> 03:37:27,680
create this crystal for you

5804
03:37:34,070 --> 03:37:31,200
well yeah so what was i i i almost like

5805
03:37:36,309 --> 03:37:34,080
blacked out uh consciously between that

5806
03:37:38,469 --> 03:37:36,319
time i was just trying to like

5807
03:37:39,510 --> 03:37:38,479
uh like processing everything yeah

5808
03:37:41,670 --> 03:37:39,520
what's going on

5809
03:37:42,830 --> 03:37:41,680
i swear my my system is like a windows

5810
03:37:45,590 --> 03:37:42,840
95.

5811
03:37:46,870 --> 03:37:45,600
uh you do do that sometimes because they

5812
03:37:47,670 --> 03:37:46,880
would like finish the story and you'd be

5813
03:37:51,190 --> 03:37:47,680
like okay

5814
03:37:54,630 --> 03:37:51,200
so the beginning of the story is

5815
03:37:54,950 --> 03:37:54,640
that they would have to like explain the

5816
03:37:56,070 --> 03:37:54,960
end

5817
03:37:58,070 --> 03:37:56,080
and then i look over and you're like

5818
03:37:58,500 --> 03:37:58,080
look at me slowly like you

5819
03:38:01,269 --> 03:37:58,510
idiot

5820
03:38:04,150 --> 03:38:01,279
[Music]

5821
03:38:04,630 --> 03:38:04,160
well thanks for not calling me out uh

5822
03:38:06,950 --> 03:38:04,640
but

5823
03:38:07,670 --> 03:38:06,960
okay oh [\h__\h] i was gonna make a point

5824
03:38:10,469 --> 03:38:07,680
but if there's

5825
03:38:12,150 --> 03:38:10,479
but if you do that there's hundreds of

5826
03:38:12,950 --> 03:38:12,160
other people who do are doing the exact

5827
03:38:14,630 --> 03:38:12,960
same thing

5828
03:38:16,389 --> 03:38:14,640
and they appreciate it well when there's

5829
03:38:17,110 --> 03:38:16,399
when there's like when you're three

5830
03:38:19,110 --> 03:38:17,120
hours in

5831
03:38:20,389 --> 03:38:19,120
i mean i've done i'm guilty of it i kind

5832
03:38:23,190 --> 03:38:20,399
of trail off so

5833
03:38:24,389 --> 03:38:23,200
what i tried to do was bring it back it

5834
03:38:27,349 --> 03:38:24,399
was an intent i wasn't

5835
03:38:28,070 --> 03:38:27,359
like purposely no i know i didn't i hate

5836
03:38:29,429 --> 03:38:28,080
hey

5837
03:38:33,590 --> 03:38:29,439
i didn't say anything because i i

5838
03:38:36,870 --> 03:38:36,469
so uh [\h__\h] i had a point i was gonna

5839
03:38:40,150 --> 03:38:36,880
make

5840
03:38:43,349 --> 03:38:40,160
uh [\h__\h] um oh oh so i

5841
03:38:46,389 --> 03:38:43,359
blanked out like in between the time the

5842
03:38:49,189 --> 03:38:46,399
alien showed uh

5843
03:38:49,590 --> 03:38:49,199
chad this substance what happened after

5844
03:38:54,229 --> 03:38:49,600
that

5845
03:38:55,590 --> 03:38:54,239
he walked up to the window

5846
03:38:57,349 --> 03:38:55,600
what the but what happened to the

5847
03:38:59,110 --> 03:38:57,359
substance he was like [\h__\h]

5848
03:39:00,550 --> 03:38:59,120
fondling in his the it turned in it

5849
03:39:03,189 --> 03:39:00,560
turned into a a

5850
03:39:05,189 --> 03:39:03,199
crystal okay so then the crystal and

5851
03:39:08,550 --> 03:39:05,199
then two sharp-sided crystal

5852
03:39:10,469 --> 03:39:08,560
yeah and it was completely see-through

5853
03:39:12,950 --> 03:39:10,479
and then what and then he walked up to

5854
03:39:18,790 --> 03:39:16,309
in this [\h__\h] cool yeah hey

5855
03:39:20,150 --> 03:39:18,800
hey you just [\h__\h] look what i can do

5856
03:39:22,309 --> 03:39:20,160
so when they come back on we'll have to

5857
03:39:23,429 --> 03:39:22,319
ask them specifically so what up with

5858
03:39:25,030 --> 03:39:23,439
the crystal what up

5859
03:39:26,790 --> 03:39:25,040
cuz i think i think that was something

5860
03:39:30,950 --> 03:39:26,800
that kind of got glossed over

5861
03:39:34,150 --> 03:39:30,960
yeah and i feel like

5862
03:39:36,229 --> 03:39:34,160
we need to go back and go like

5863
03:39:37,269 --> 03:39:36,239
chad dude tell us about that [\h__\h]

5864
03:39:40,710 --> 03:39:37,279
crystal yeah

5865
03:39:44,790 --> 03:39:40,720
also tell us about the uh uh

5866
03:39:48,309 --> 03:39:44,800
anak uh as ka as khanda

5867
03:39:51,510 --> 03:39:48,319
as nazca the nazca mummies

5868
03:39:53,910 --> 03:39:51,520
yeah anaconda mummy because dude the

5869
03:39:56,630 --> 03:39:53,920
alien that he was that he was describing

5870
03:39:58,469 --> 03:39:56,640
the mama condom mama condom mama condom

5871
03:40:01,269 --> 03:39:58,479
mommy

5872
03:40:02,070 --> 03:40:01,279
the the three fingers and then the the

5873
03:40:04,389 --> 03:40:02,080
dependable

5874
03:40:05,590 --> 03:40:04,399
appendageable thumb yeah like grabbing

5875
03:40:07,110 --> 03:40:05,600
the arm like that was

5876
03:40:09,030 --> 03:40:07,120
the impression i think it's a posable

5877
03:40:11,030 --> 03:40:09,040
thumb

5878
03:40:12,870 --> 03:40:11,040
i'm falling apart i'm falling from the

5879
03:40:14,469 --> 03:40:12,880
scenes this is the appendageable

5880
03:40:15,990 --> 03:40:14,479
we're almost at four hours and i'm

5881
03:40:16,630 --> 03:40:16,000
following the [\h__\h] part this is why

5882
03:40:18,870 --> 03:40:16,640
we end at three

5883
03:40:20,630 --> 03:40:18,880
oh my gosh all right i'll let's let's

5884
03:40:22,309 --> 03:40:20,640
see

5885
03:40:25,110 --> 03:40:22,319
all right guys don't forget to go check

5886
03:40:28,630 --> 03:40:25,120
out ufo garage podcast

5887
03:40:30,790 --> 03:40:28,640
um yeah ufo garage pc sorry

5888
03:40:32,070 --> 03:40:30,800
actually first off let me start this off

5889
03:40:34,389 --> 03:40:32,080
by saying

5890
03:40:36,229 --> 03:40:34,399
go check out redeemer small batch

5891
03:40:37,830 --> 03:40:36,239
because that's where it's at oh damn

5892
03:40:39,269 --> 03:40:37,840
and maybe that's why we're so

5893
03:40:40,790 --> 03:40:39,279
scatterbrained because we didn't have

5894
03:40:43,269 --> 03:40:40,800
any redeemer today yeah

5895
03:40:45,269 --> 03:40:43,279
yeah we usually been getting on the on

5896
03:40:46,950 --> 03:40:45,279
the cb dubies before the show and we

5897
03:40:47,990 --> 03:40:46,960
didn't so now we're falling apart at the

5898
03:40:49,670 --> 03:40:48,000
end of the show

5899
03:40:51,349 --> 03:40:49,680
yeah guys don't forget to go check them

5900
03:40:54,229 --> 03:40:51,359
out they're they're freaking amazing

5901
03:40:56,070 --> 03:40:54,239
and also uh phoenix shaving uh ice i'm

5902
03:40:56,550 --> 03:40:56,080
still cleaning my body with that soap

5903
03:40:58,830 --> 03:40:56,560
man

5904
03:41:00,070 --> 03:40:58,840
it's good stuff it's good stuff but more

5905
03:41:03,590 --> 03:41:00,080
importantly

5906
03:41:05,990 --> 03:41:03,600
go to ufogaragepc.com

5907
03:41:07,030 --> 03:41:06,000
you can find all of our cool t-shirts

5908
03:41:09,189 --> 03:41:07,040
all our episodes

5909
03:41:11,189 --> 03:41:09,199
all of our episodes are on there there's

5910
03:41:14,710 --> 03:41:11,199
some pictures of our faces

5911
03:41:15,349 --> 03:41:14,720
and uh yeah and our butts so yeah and

5912
03:41:18,630 --> 03:41:15,359
and

5913
03:41:19,030 --> 03:41:18,640
i mean i would love to add a a blog post

5914
03:41:23,750 --> 03:41:19,040
for

5915
03:41:25,429 --> 03:41:23,760
episode because i feel like it needs it

5916
03:41:27,670 --> 03:41:25,439
definitely there's got to be some

5917
03:41:30,070 --> 03:41:27,680
visuals for a part

5918
03:41:31,429 --> 03:41:30,080
you know whatever 16 it is going to be

5919
03:41:32,870 --> 03:41:31,439
absolutely man

5920
03:41:35,030 --> 03:41:32,880
well all right dude that's about it for

5921
03:41:37,189 --> 03:41:35,040
me yeah dude i'm done

5922
03:41:40,830 --> 03:41:37,199
okay i'm falling apart at the seams but